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Old 07-23-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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It doesn't.
Correct.

 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:11 AM
 
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You need to be aware of this, because it's a political foundation of your country that is gradually being undermined.


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The doctrine of separation of powers concerns branches of government. It has nothing to do with the power structure of the military, and is not designed as a safeguard against a civil revolt or military-led uprising against the government.
Enlighten us, how exactly is the doctrine of Separation of Powers being undermined?
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:19 AM
 
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Where does it mention the military in the following summation of the doctrine?

"The doctrine of separation of powers, as implemented in drafting the Constitution, was based on several principles generally held: the separation of government into three branches, legislative, executive, and judicial; the conception that each branch performs unique and identifiable functions that are appropriate to each; and the limitation of the personnel of each branch to that branch, so that no one person or group should be able to serve in more than one branch simultaneously."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/h...rag1_user.html

That's not an answer to the question Gentoo posed, and it's also a complete non-sequitur, and betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of how US government works.

The doctrine of Separation of Powers is not rigid and absolute, it's flexible. Your quotation above doesn't need to mention the military. The military is an agency of government that follows orders, not a branch of government that gives orders. You need to understand the distinction.

Your quotation doesn't mention lots of other government functions either, but that doesn't prevent the doctrine from applying to them. Just because its not in your quotation.........

The President has veto power over legislation. Congress can refuse to fund a Presidential request. The President and Congress can agree on a law, but only SCOTUS gets to say what the law actually means, and can strike it down if appropriate, unlike in the UK where Parliament is sovereign, and the courts much less powerful.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:20 AM
 
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Enlighten us, how exactly is the doctrine of Separation of Powers being undermined?
This is a PAOC topic. I suggest you ask over there:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-congress.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-tyrant-2.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...offense-5.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...na-king-8.html
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:27 AM
 
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Your quotation above doesn't need to mention the military.
In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to back up the claim that this doctrine (specific to an Enlightenment era political thesis on constitutional government) applies to the military.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to back up the claim that this doctrine (specific to an Enlightenment era political thesis on constitutional government) applies to the military.
In other words, you only have the internet to and no experience.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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In other words, you only have the internet to and no experience.
The kind of claims you mention, such as: "My papa is in the military and he says so", is anecdote. This is not really the same thing as "experience" (by which I presume you actually mean being a recognized authority on the subject).

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Old 07-23-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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There's no reason for me to go to PAOC. You're the one who made the claim, IN THIS ThREAD you have to carry the burden of supporting it. That's how this works.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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There's no reason for me to go to PAOC. You're the one who made the claim, IN THIS ThREAD you have to carry the burden of supporting it. That's how this works.
The threads answer your question.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:49 AM
 
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In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to back up the claim that this doctrine (specific to an Enlightenment era political thesis on constitutional government) applies to the military.
The doctrine of Separation of Powers applies to all facets of US government, no need to produce evidence that it applies to the military. if you believe it doesn't apply to the military, as you seem implying, then show & tell.
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