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Old 03-03-2016, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Originally Posted by Krokodill View Post

Trump is quite a worry, but the people that vote Trump are more worrysome!!! More so in a country that people are supposed to be literate and that have freedom of information.
Yesterday I saw a statistic that only ~10% of people who voted for Trump in the primaries comsider it important that their candidate 'share their values'.

This lends credence to the theory that Trump's popularity is tied to his role as an upsetter to the status quo of the Republican party rather than a reflection on the popularity of the nonsense he spouts.

 
Old 03-03-2016, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill
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Trump seems to be bringing out the racial animosity that existed long before he ever thought about running. It seem like some of his supporters have some emotional things to deal with as being a racist and hateful is a mental disorder.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Trump is a divider and a narcissist who demonstrates little respect for the democratic institutions in place, for this reason I think he is a very dangerous man not just in the USA but also the wider world.

The fact that he has been able to be so successful is a massive indictment on the performance of the USA's establishment parties who have neglected large segments of the American people for decades and many are now revolting. His candidacy has left much of the world bemused really, and his ascendency solidifies in many people's minds that maybe America really is in decline.

Selling government to the highest bidder is clearly not a sign of a healthy democracy and whatever happens with Trump his ascendancy should be sending some serious alarm bells to the ruling class that they must actually start governing for the people or risk the collapse of the USA as we know it.
 
Old 03-04-2016, 12:43 AM
 
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Default Trump: World Better Off If Saddam, Gadhafi Were Still in Power

Trump: World Better Off If Saddam, Gadhafi Were Still in Power
Speaking at the latest Republican debate, front-runner Donald Trump reiterated his belief that the world would be better off if Saddam Hussein was still in power in Iraq, and Moammar Gadhafi in Libya, saying ISIS would’ve never been able to seize parts of those countries if they were still there.

“They were bad, they were really bad but we would have been better off if the politicians had taken the day off and not gone into war,” Trump added. Trump had made similar statements back in October on Meet the Press.

Trump’s position is seen as controversial, particularly on Iraq, with most of the Republican field still cheering George W. Bush’s decision to invade and occupy Iraq in 2003. Trump has presented his opposition to disastrous past wars as proof of his comparative sensibility.
I agree with him on this issue.

What did the US get from the war, btw?
 
Old 03-04-2016, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Originally Posted by ABQConvict View Post
Yesterday I saw a statistic that only ~10% of people who voted for Trump in the primaries comsider it important that their candidate 'share their values'.

This lends credence to the theory that Trump's popularity is tied to his role as an upsetter to the status quo of the Republican party rather than a reflection on the popularity of the nonsense he spouts.
I don't get how people view him as an upsetter. I mean, he's the symbol of what's gone wrong with media and of the establishment having inherited part of his fotune through his father. Anyway, if that poll is true then it seems that Trump would most likely be Trump'ed to a second term if he gets elected and actually manages not to run the country to the ground (i don't think he would but still.....)
 
Old 03-04-2016, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Trump: World Better Off If Saddam, Gadhafi Were Still in Power
Speaking at the latest Republican debate, front-runner Donald Trump reiterated his belief that the world would be better off if Saddam Hussein was still in power in Iraq, and Moammar Gadhafi in Libya, saying ISIS would’ve never been able to seize parts of those countries if they were still there.

“They were bad, they were really bad but we would have been better off if the politicians had taken the day off and not gone into war,” Trump added. Trump had made similar statements back in October on Meet the Press.

Trump’s position is seen as controversial, particularly on Iraq, with most of the Republican field still cheering George W. Bush’s decision to invade and occupy Iraq in 2003. Trump has presented his opposition to disastrous past wars as proof of his comparative sensibility.
I agree with him on this issue.

What did the US get from the war, btw?
Hard not to agree with him on the matter. I admire his non-interventist stance when it comes to foreign politic, the USA would have spared thousands of men, resources and such if it avoid getting too involved in the Middle East.

By the way, it seems that a new Italy (partly because of our influence there and partly because we have the closest bases) led operation is going to start soon in Lybia. What are they thinking? Have they not learned from the consequences of what happened in 2011?

They at least have decency to wait for the two Libyan governments to find an agreement (it seems close by the way) but i'm not confident. This will just unify all the Anti Western groups (including IS, who's the strongest of them) who are currently fighting against each other

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Trump is a divider and a narcissist who demonstrates little respect for the democratic institutions in place, for this reason I think he is a very dangerous man not just in the USA but also the wider world.

The fact that he has been able to be so successful is a massive indictment on the performance of the USA's establishment parties who have neglected large segments of the American people for decades and many are now revolting. His candidacy has left much of the world bemused really, and his ascendency solidifies in many people's minds that maybe America really is in decline.

Selling government to the highest bidder is clearly not a sign of a healthy democracy and whatever happens with Trump his ascendancy should be sending some serious alarm bells to the ruling class that they must actually start governing for the people or risk the collapse of the USA as we know it.
That's a problem, the current system forces an outside like Sanders to climb a mountain while establishment candidates and the wealthiest have a much easier road to accessing to funds both from investors than from banks
 
Old 03-05-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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Right arm raised, in pledge to vote, after trump demands it. Shades of fascism, what a leader



 
Old 03-05-2016, 09:06 PM
 
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Right arm raised, in pledge to vote, after trump demands it. Shades of fascism, what a leader
Are you talking about this country?
 
Old 03-06-2016, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I didn't know Bernie Sanders is Jewish. ZOG! NWO! Illuminati! Judeo-Masonic conspiracy!
 
Old 03-06-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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[URL="http://news.antiwar.com/2016/02/25/trump-world-better-off-if-saddam-gadhafi-were-still-in-power/"]Trump: World Better Off If Saddam, Gadhafi Were Still in Power[/URL]
[INDENT]Speaking at the latest Republican debate, front-runner Donald Trump reiterated his belief that the world would be better off if Saddam Hussein was still in power in Iraq, and Moammar Gadhafi in Libya, saying ISIS would’ve never been able to seize parts of those countries if they were still there.

“They were bad, they were really bad but we would have been better off if the politicians had taken the day off and not gone into war,” Trump added. Trump had made similar statements back in October on Meet the Press.

Trump’s position is seen as controversial, particularly on Iraq, with most of the Republican field still cheering George W. Bush’s decision to invade and occupy Iraq in 2003. Trump has presented his opposition to disastrous past wars as proof of his comparative sensibility.[/INDENT]
I agree with him on this issue.

What did the US get from the war, btw?
Oh please, he never publicly opposed the Iraq war when it started. I believe the only person running right now who did was Bernie Sanders. Of course, now he says all of these things because it currently fits his 'anti-establishment' charade. He's a charlatan. He dos things based on how it will affect his business.

At the time of the start of the Iraq war, if you spoke out against it, you were insulted and called un-American and unpatriotic. It was NOT a popular thing to do. I know because I was vehemently opposed to it and participated in anti-war demonstrations.

This is when Fox news started its frenzy- they fed into Republican's fears and frustrations with strong rhetoric. There was only one way of seeing and doing things, of thinking. If you didn't follow that mentality, you were seen as a traitor and against the country. Now ironically, the movement they created is going against the Republican establishment and they don't know what to do to stop it.
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