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Old 03-11-2017, 08:11 PM
 
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If there is to be peace, the concessions will have to come from the Palestinian side, not the Israeli side.
Actually, it would have to be a combined agreement between the two.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Charlottesville
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Well I have seen Haradi here in Australia, and of course they reject a lot of aspects of modern life. It be better off if they prefer that way to become self sufficient and still reject a lot of aspects of modern life, like the Amish groups, or christian sects like the Exclusive Brethren.
There is no doubt in my mind that that if the Ultra Orthodox/Haredi choose their life style to live by then if they going to put nothing into the countries they live in they they must be self sufficient and not live on entitlements and back door funds. In many ways they are no different than the Palestinians in Israel. The Palestinians claim poverty but it is nearly impossible to find one who is actually starving. There are no waves of photographs like those that currently come out of Africa or like the past of the people who were in the concentration camps. People across the world spout many words and catch phrases against Israel yet rarely have unedited photography to back it up with. There is a movement currently to remove Jewish owned manufacturing companies from the West Bank, yet they hide the fact that those companies were requested to build there so Palestinians could get jobs that paid at Israeli levels. There is no one else creating jobs for these people. Soda Stream gave up last year and closed the one of their fourteen manufacturing plants that exist worldwide. It was in the West Bank and it put nearly 1000 Palestinians out of work. Israel rebuilt another manufacturing plant outside the West Bank. This new plant was not built near a Jewish community, but near a Bedouin community. Thus being a job creator for another segment of their country and creating nearly a 1000 jobs for Bedouins. Yet no matter what Israel does to place themselves in a positive light, the squeaky anti-Israel/anti-Jews make mostly baseless comments without anything to actually back it up.

This conflict is going to come to a head and the next war will most likely be between Lebanon and Israel. Hezbollah which is now an integral part of the Lebanese government will start it and the Palestinians will join it from the inside. There will be many more than the 2000 or so deaths that happened during the last war, but this will finally bring this situation to an end to where hopefully Hamas, Fatah (PLO) and the other few organizations will be gone. Thus allowing the Palestinian citizens to make a choice of what is more important to them.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Charlottesville
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Actually, it would have to be a combined agreement between the two.
And there is the problem. The Israelis have given in to numerous concessions and pre-conditions and we're still waiting for the Palestinians to give something/anything. So when are the Palestinians going to be held to the same standards of the Israelis and yield concessions from their side?
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