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Old 04-20-2016, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Reinvesting in transport - Transport For London

Our role is to keep London working and growing and make life better. Transport is an essential part of life in London and we have a plan to improve every one of your journeys. So as our city grows, everyone who lives, works and visits London has the transport they need.
  • We don't make a profit because we reinvest all our income to run and improve your services
  • We are a public body, with no shareholders or parent companies, which means we can reinvest every pound of income in the transport network
  • For every pound we receive, 65% is spent on the everyday running costs of the network and 35% on improving it for the future
  • We reinvest in numerous projects, from building the new Elizabeth line (Crossrail 1), running the Tube through the night, modernising the roads to helping you to plan your journeys and keep you up to date with live travel information
  • Sustained investment is making it possible to make real improvements to the transport network for the millions of people who rely on us every day


London Crossrail & Crossrail 2

Crossrail Stations - Crossrail



Crossrail 2 | Supporting growth in the South east




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Thameslink programme : Thameslink



London Underground Improvements - What We Have Done

London Underground Improvements - What We Now Plan To Do

New 'S' Stock - Sub-Surface Tube Lines



New Tube for London - Deep Underground Lines


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Old 04-21-2016, 05:00 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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NYC has the largest subway system on earth, and has far more stations or track than that of London. They aren't even close.

You are probably referring to route miles. London has slightly more route miles than NYC, but NYC has far more track (because most of the NYC system is four-tracked, and the London system is two-tracked).

But Tokyo has, by far, the largest urban rail system on earth. It's just that its urban rail system is overwhelmingly commuter rail and not subway.

The numbers for the Chinese systems, BTW are not comparable to other cities outside of China. Their systems are hybrid systems, and they count subway, light rail and commuter rail as all "metro". So you can basically ignore the figures for Shanghai and Beijing.
I wasn't referring to anything, those aren't my words. The fact is London has more route miles yes, and your point? The London underground was the worlds first subway system, it needs some modernising in parts, it is still so very easy to use though, the tube 'map' is very iconic.
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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Problem with the London tube is that it's too expensive and not extensive enough, even if you're only considering central London. Not enough lines/stations, coming from Paris it is very noticeable. You basically have to walk much more in London than in Paris if you're only relying on the metro/tube. Even NYC and Manhattan lack lines and stations IMO, the NYC subway system seems extensive when you look at the numbers but most of the tracks are in the outer boroughs. Same for London, most tube line act like commuter trains and go very far from the city center.
The NYC subway system/London tube should be compared to metro+RER, metro+RER has roughly 800km of route length whereas the NYC subway system has less than 400km and London just over 400km.
The good thing about London is that it's currently improving its system with crossrail which is going to be pretty much the equivalent of the RER A, which is a very busy and crucial line in Paris with over 1 million passagers every day.
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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Problem with the London tube is that it's too expensive and not extensive enough, even if you're only considering central London. Not enough lines/stations, coming from Paris it is very noticeable. You basically have to walk much more in London than in Paris if you're only relying on the metro/tube. Even NYC and Manhattan lack lines and stations IMO, the NYC subway system seems extensive when you look at the numbers but most of the tracks are in the outer boroughs. Same for London, most tube line act like commuter trains and go very far from the city center.
The NYC subway system/London tube should be compared to metro+RER, metro+RER has roughly 800km of route length whereas the NYC subway system has less than 400km and London just over 400km.
The good thing about London is that it's currently improving its system with crossrail which is going to be pretty much the equivalent of the RER A, which is a very busy and crucial line in Paris with over 1 million passagers every day.
This isn't true.
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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Problem with the London tube is that it's too expensive and not extensive enough, even if you're only considering central London. Not enough lines/stations, coming from Paris it is very noticeable. You basically have to walk much more in London than in Paris if you're only relying on the metro/tube. Even NYC and Manhattan lack lines and stations IMO, the NYC subway system seems extensive when you look at the numbers but most of the tracks are in the outer boroughs. Same for London, most tube line act like commuter trains and go very far from the city center.
The NYC subway system/London tube should be compared to metro+RER, metro+RER has roughly 800km of route length whereas the NYC subway system has less than 400km and London just over 400km.
The good thing about London is that it's currently improving its system with crossrail which is going to be pretty much the equivalent of the RER A, which is a very busy and crucial line in Paris with over 1 million passagers every day.
Ikr?
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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Problem with the London tube is that it's too expensive and not extensive enough, even if you're only considering central London. Not enough lines/stations, coming from Paris it is very noticeable. You basically have to walk much more in London than in Paris if you're only relying on the metro/tube. Even NYC and Manhattan lack lines and stations IMO, the NYC subway system seems extensive when you look at the numbers but most of the tracks are in the outer boroughs. Same for London, most tube line act like commuter trains and go very far from the city center.
The NYC subway system/London tube should be compared to metro+RER, metro+RER has roughly 800km of route length whereas the NYC subway system has less than 400km and London just over 400km.
The good thing about London is that it's currently improving its system with crossrail which is going to be pretty much the equivalent of the RER A, which is a very busy and crucial line in Paris with over 1 million passagers every day.
London has 366 Heavy Railway Stations and a massive rail infastructure already, with more stations being added in relation to Crossrail 1 (Elizabeth Line) & Crossrail 2, whilst there has been extensive work carried out in relation to other massive projects such as London Overground and Thameslink with more investment planned.

London Railway Stations - Wiki

The Underground system comprises 11 lines – Bakerloo, Central, Circle, District, Hammersmith & City, Jubilee, Metropolitan, Northern, Piccadilly, Victoria, Waterloo & City – serving a further 270 stations, whilst TfL plans to open six new stations between 2017 and 2020 as a result of extensions to the Metropolitan and Northern Lines.

The Docklands Light Railway has a further 45 Stations, and Tramlink a further 39 Stations, with both systems looking to expand.

I think London is very well served in terms of Transport Links and Transport for London (TfL) invests all profits back in to the system which has seen massive investment in recent years. 65% of revenue is used to actually run the system, whilst the other 35% is used to invest in the system and new projects.



Reinvesting in transport -tfl




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Old 04-21-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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The only other thing I will add in relation to London is that Transport for London (Tfl) plans to take over a number of rail lines in order to create a more extensive London Overground Service, and coupled with Thameslink and Crossrail 1 & 2, it will have a massive impact on London's vast rail network. The London Overground Service, will also join the Night Tube and DLR in Operating 24 Hours a Day at Weekends.

All-night services extended to Overground, DLR and most Tube lines - BBC News

London rail network: See what the Suburban Metro would look like after TfL gave plans thumbs up

Government backs TfL plan to run London's commuter rail services | UK news | The Guardian

Developing the Rail Network - Tfl

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Old 04-21-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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All I can say is that you all are provoking in me a serious case of 'transport envy'. Droool...

I think our city councillors and planners here in Toronto should be nominated for the 'Keystone Kops Transit Planners' or something for their sheer uselessness.
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:32 PM
 
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All I can say is that you all are provoking in me a serious case of 'transport envy'. Droool...

I think our city councillors and planners here in Toronto should be nominated for the 'Keystone Kops Transit Planners' or something for their sheer uselessness.
Toronto has the highest number light-rails in any city in the WORLD. you've got nothing to complain about
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Old 04-22-2016, 04:38 AM
 
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All I can say is that you all are provoking in me a serious case of 'transport envy'. Droool...

I think our city councillors and planners here in Toronto should be nominated for the 'Keystone Kops Transit Planners' or something for their sheer uselessness.
Canada is a great country, with some of the most beautiful cities anywhere, and in terms of Toronto, it seems to have a European Style Metro System and I was just reading about the Eglinton Crosstown line, which will see a major expansion of the system.

Btw Canada Day (1st July) is always a good day in London, usually lots of Canadians desceding on the Maple Leaf Pub in Covent Garden, whilst there's also a stage and bands playing in Trafalgar Square. The Maple Leaf is a great place to be when Canada wins an Ice Hockey Game.



Outside the Maple Leaf Pub in London on Canada Day


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