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Old 04-17-2016, 04:18 AM
 
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There is much discussion about what are the best meters of more important large countries of Europe and USA.
Some value more any of other things the cleanliness the punctuality and others by more less extension, better service to their cities etc

I think some classic meters today are impaired for bad odors lack of cleanliness or security,crime etc.-
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Old 04-17-2016, 04:23 AM
 
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meters you mean metros?

if so MADRID blows the other off the water!!!

Considering the city has 3 million people, it has the most lines and subway stations per capita than any of those cities mentioned above. It's also a really modern metro, efficient, clean. There is NOT a single place in Madrid that you cannot get to by metro!

NYC metro is old, smells, and not very clean.... plus the air conditioned is terrible, they blast it! (plus the famous rat, roach problem)

London metro is too expensive, and it's very old so the city grew around it rather than the metro growing around the city... as a result the tube is many times located in areas that are not neuralgic to the city and areas which truly need a tube sometimes don't have a the tube nearby.

milan metro is meh... not very large... it's rather basic good for the city size but nothing to write home about

moscow metro has impressive stations but I still like madrid better

paris metro is after madrid the best

my ranking would be:
MADRID : 13 lines covering a greater urban area of 6 million people.
PARIS : 16 lines covering an urban area of 12 million people.
MOSCOW : 12 lines covering an urban area of 12 million people.
NYC : 34 lines if you count the outer boroughs (queens, brooklyn, bronx) covering an area of 22 million people. Tri state
LONDON: 11 lines covering an greater urban area of 13 million people.
MILAN : 4 lines covering a greater urban area of 5 million.

have in mind Madrid is the size of Milan (both much smaller than the other four choices), that shows you how well covered Madrid is when it comes to its metro! Madrid is five times smaller than London with more metro lines!

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Old 04-17-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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meters you mean metros?

if so MADRID blows the other off the water!!!

Considering the city has 3 million people, it has the most lines and subway stations per capita than any of those cities mentioned above. It's also a really modern metro, efficient, clean. There is NOT a single place in Madrid that you cannot get to by metro!

NYC metro is old, smells, and not very clean.... plus the air conditioned is terrible, they blast it! (plus the famous rat, roach problem)

London metro is too expensive, and it's very old so the city grew around it rather than the metro growing around the city... as a result the tube is many times located in areas that are not neuralgic to the city and areas which truly need a tube sometimes don't have a the tube nearby.

milan metro is meh... not very large... it's rather basic good for the city size but nothing to write home about

moscow metro has impressive stations but I still like madrid better

paris metro is after madrid the best

my ranking would be:
MADRID : 13 lines covering a greater urban area of 6 million people.
PARIS : 16 lines covering an urban area of 12 million people.
MOSCOW : 12 lines covering an urban area of 12 million people.
NYC : 34 lines if you count the outer boroughs (queens, brooklyn, bronx) covering an area of 22 million people. Tri state
LONDON: 11 lines covering an greater urban area of 13 million people.
MILAN : 4 lines covering a greater urban area of 5 million.

have in mind Madrid is the size of Milan (both much smaller than the other four choices), that shows you how well covered Madrid is when it comes to its metro! Madrid is five times smaller than London with more metro lines!
Paris has 16 metro lines + 5 RER lines (big metro basically) + 8 tram lines + 8 communter trains
Paris intra muros (the city) has the highest density of metro stations in the world
Never been to Madrid, I'm sure it has a great metro system, but I very much doubt it is as extensive as the Paris metro

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Old 04-17-2016, 04:32 PM
 
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Paris has probably the best network layout. Stations in all the right places. It's a rickety ride, though.
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Old 04-17-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Metros?

Paris has the densest Metro system on the planet. It would certainly be a contender. I probably pick Paris.

But all these cities, excepting Milan, have large, comprehensive metro systems. NYC has the biggest system, Moscow has the busiest system, London has the oldest system, Madrid has the newest system. I would probably remove Milan from consideration.
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Old 04-17-2016, 09:54 PM
 
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I personally never been to any and don't know too much about this subject but shouldn't st. Petersburg also be on the list?

Here is a list of metros in US (might as well as add Canada too) and Europe by annual ridership

1. Moscow 2.4513 billion (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Metro

2. New York 1,751,287,621 (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway

3. Paris 1.527 billion (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_M%C3%A9tro

4. London 1.305 billion (2014/15) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground

5. St. Petersburg 763.1 million (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg_Metro

6. Prague 589.2 million (2012) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Metro

7. Madrid 560.9 million (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid_Metro

8. Kiev 536.2 million (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiev_Metro

9. Berlin 507.3 million (2012) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_U-Bahn

10. Athens 493,800,000 (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens_Metro

11. Budapest 463.6 million (2011) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Metro

12. Vienna 439.8 million (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_U-Bahn

13. Milan ~419.75 million https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Metro

14. Barcelona 412,583,000 (2012) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona_Metro

15. Munich 390 million (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_U-Bahn

16. Montreal 356,096,000 (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Metro

17. Stockholm 328 million (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_metro

18. Toronto 324,738,500 (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_rapid_transit

19. Minsk 318.5 million (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_Metro

20. Istanbul 304.9 million (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Metro

21. Rome 279 million (2012) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Metro

22. Chicago 238.25 million (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_%22L%22

23. Kharkiv 231.1 million (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Metro

24. Hamburg 218 million (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_U-Bahn

25. Washington 204 million (2014, approx.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Metro

And if you consider Baku to be a european city then it would take the 25th spot with 215.5 million (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku_Metro

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Old 04-17-2016, 10:32 PM
 
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In my experience:

1. Moscow
2. London
3. Paris
4. Madrid
5. NYC

Ranked according to reliability, efficiency, modernity, workload and rider experience.
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Old 04-17-2016, 10:58 PM
 
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Some lists in online articles. It's not clear if some of these are rankings, but context and some measure of consistency (maybe except the BI article) suggests that they may be at least vaguely in order of impressiveness.

Frommers.com

Moscow
London
Stockholm
Tokyo
New York
Paris

Dubai
Athens
Hong Kong
Beijing

Travel.CNN

Moscow [reader choice]
Hong Kong
Seoul
Singapore
London
Paris
Madrid

New York
Tokyo
Guangzhou

Mobal.com

London
Paris
Moscow

Amsterdam
Madrid
Barcelona
Tokyo

Business insider

Barcelona
Boston
Singapore
Washington DC
Tokyo
Hong Kong
Paris
Madrid
Moscow

Chicago
London
New York
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Old 04-18-2016, 01:20 AM
 
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Paris has 16 metro lines + 5 RER lines (big metro basically) + 8 tram lines + 8 communter trains
Paris intra muros (the city) has the highest density of metro stations in the world
Never been to Madrid, I'm sure it has a great metro system, but I very much doubt it is as extensive as the Paris metro
Madrid has 13 metro lines, 4 light metro (basically tram) lies + 10 Cercanias lines (equivalent to RER)
And a population of half the size of Paris. Madrid public transport is much more extensive than PAris metro by far (i.e.: metro systems are kind of the same size but MAdrid is half the size of Paris)
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Old 04-18-2016, 05:53 AM
 
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I've seen elsewhere where some people are critical of Tokyo's system. I don't get it. Everyone there uses it, if they aren't on a bike, so the stations are omnipresent, the trains are modern and clean, and punctuality is never a problem.

Some of the routes are even scenic in central Tokyo. You can be on a train that swoops around above the street, and get an amazing view of the neon lights after dark.

I guess if I had one gripe about the Tokyo system, it's that most suburban neighbourhood stations had a lot of stairs... so I'm not sure how easy it would be for someone with disabilities to navigate. Maybe there were elevators I didn't see. My general impression way nice and modern, though. The major stations are enormous and it's incredible to see the sea of people moving through them.

I've never been to Seoul, but its system gets many positive reviews for being modern and efficient.

Toronto's is finally being expanded... an expansion that's way, way overdue. Currently, it basically just goes in some loops around the central downtown area. It needs to be extended out to the suburbs.
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