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Old 05-25-2016, 03:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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They are quite close though. Mexico is one of the U.S. closest strategic allies.
I'm not disagreeing with you that they are close but how so strategically?
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:36 PM
 
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The relationship between Mexico and the United States may be extensive (in functional terms), but it is not BFF. There is no particular affinity between the two countries.

If Mexico was located over seas, instead of on the border, Mexico would be just another foreign country to us.

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Old 05-25-2016, 07:19 PM
 
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I'm not disagreeing with you that they are close but how so strategically?
NAFTA, joint military exercises, shared intelligence, coordinated border enforcement and narcotics enforcement, shared energy exploration. The U.S. and Mexico are pretty close allies, notwithstanding the Trump-type rhetoric in the U.S. and the Leftist rhetoric in Mexico.
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:23 PM
 
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The relationship between Mexico and the United States may be extensive (in functional terms), but it is not BFF. There is no particular affinity between the two countries.
What are you basing this on? The U.S. and Mexico are two of the closest linked countries on the planet.

Don't believe me? What does the U.S. State Department say?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35749.htm
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If Mexico was located over seas, instead of on the border, Mexico would be just another foreign country to us.
Well, yeah. What's your point?

If the UK weren't our English-speaking "parent", it would be "just another country". If Canada weren't our northern neighbor, it would be "just another country". If Germany weren't the European hegemon, it would be "just another country". If Israel wasn't the Jewish homeland, it would be "just another country". If Saudi Arabia didn't have oil, it would be "just another country".
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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When the chips are down, as they were during the Iran hostage crisis and 9/11, Canada is there for us in the US. I bless Canada every day and stand whenever I hear "O Canada." We're like siblings who may disagree on certain matters but are never hateful to each other about it.


We got'er back, brother. Even with the little things.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHSaHRd4Q48
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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NAFTA, joint military exercises, shared intelligence, coordinated border enforcement and narcotics enforcement, shared energy exploration. The U.S. and Mexico are pretty close allies, notwithstanding the Trump-type rhetoric in the U.S. and the Leftist rhetoric in Mexico.
I had no idea about the military cooperation. That makes it more significant for sure.
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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What are you basing this on? The U.S. and Mexico are two of the closest linked countries on the planet.

Don't believe me? What does the U.S. State Department say?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35749.htm
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U.S. relations with Mexico are strong and vital. The two countries share a 2,000-mile border, and bilateral relations between the two have a direct impact on the lives and livelihoods of millions of Americans, whether the issue is trade and economic reform, education exchange, citizen security, drug control, migration, entrepreneurship and innovation, or the environment. The scope of U.S.-Mexican relations is broad and goes beyond diplomatic and official relations. It entails extensive commercial, cultural, and educational ties, with some 1.4 billion dollars of two-way trade and hundreds of thousands of legal border crossings each day. In addition, a million American citizens live in Mexico. U.S. tourists to Mexico numbered over 20 million in 2013 making Mexico the top destination of U.S. travelers. Mexican tourists to the U.S. were over 14 million in 2013, and they spent an estimated $10.5 billion.
Mexico actually contains the largest number of American expats of any country.

Also, in San Diego, a lot of people work here but live in Tijuana and seeing Baja license plates is common here.
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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[quote=NOLA101;44189793]What are you basing this on? The U.S. and Mexico are two of the closest linked countries on the planet.

"closest linked", in this case, means cooperation-however extensive-that is ultimately based on what is convenient or expedient.

Cooperation based on cold blooded calculations.

Best Friends Forever, BFF, implies something that is lacking here-a commitment on an emotional level.
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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What are you basing this on? The U.S. and Mexico are two of the closest linked countries on the planet.

"closest linked", in this case, means cooperation-however extensive-that is ultimately based on what is convenient or expedient.

Cooperation based on cold blooded calculations.

Best Friends Forever, BFF, implies something that is lacking here-a commitment on an emotional level.
I also agree with you that Mexico and the US aren't BFF's. However, I do think the relationship is as distant as it is with other nations and I don't think it's a cold calculating relationship either.
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:17 PM
 
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Mexico and the United States? The relationship could be described as that of business partners, who are emotionally detached from each other.

We may work well together, but after business hours we go our separate ways.

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