Unhappy with US - What countries should I consider immigrating to? (fit in, low crime)
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For quite some time, my dissatisfaction with America has been growing and I’m thinking about becoming a citizen of another country. I can’t see myself being happy here long-term. My #1 issue with America is that it was built from the ground up to serve the rich and everything revolves around money. Most other industrialized nations are far more egalitarian. However, there are a lot of other grievances as well.
I was born in the US but I have Polish citizenship because of my immigrant family. I love Poland and I would gladly live there if the economy wasn’t so weak. I’m conservative on social issues and democratic socialist on economic issues. I’m fully aware that every country on the planet will have things I disagree with. But what are some industrialized countries that are egalitarian and line up with some of the things I’m looking for?
You are what we would call a social conservative here in Italy. There aren't several countries to have both conservative laws in social matters and socialdemocratic ones in economical matters. The Italy of old (late 60s and early 70s) did, the most you can find now is a social conservative city or thereabouts. One such city in Italy is Latina (a fairly wealthy city just southeast of Rome) but you would probably find the best bang for your buck in Central or Eastern Europe, even in Poland for example (the economy doesn't seem weak, salaries are lower in the same way costs are lower so you can afford a similar life to the USA).
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed
I find it funny though how some socially displaced white Americans these days describe what they want, and they all want Islam, just.....without the Koran or Allah part.
To be fair, that goes for socially conservative people of any colour and in any Western country and the funny thing is that they are the most vocal against Islam. It's kinda like nationalists being the most vocal against other country's nationalists once they are leading a country
Can you please explain in detail how those countries would be a total misfit? I said I was a socially conservative democratic socialist. My number 1 issue with the US is the lack of economic equality and a very poor welfare state. I know I wouldn't get everything I wanted from a country but I would be satisfied as long as it was a better fit than the US. I'm not expecting a long list of countries. A very short list will suffice.
Germany has fairly high economic inequality (not as high as the U.S., but getting closer). Since economic reforms were passed around 10 years ago, inequality has skyrocketed (though the economy has performed much better, too).
Denmark has very low economic and social inequality, so could be a good option. But there are very few Danish Catholics (or even Danish Lutherans these days) and Denmark is socially rather liberal. Also better be prepared to pay enormous taxes. And it isn't easy to migrate to Denmark; they tend to be somewhat anti-immigrant (at least compared to say, Germany).
-Opposition to abortion
-Opposition to gay marriage
-Opposition to government interference with religion -Favoring traditional gender roles over radical feminism
The closest country I can think of that comes close to this is North Korea. Not trying to be a smart ass or troll here but I think it's the country with three out of four of these. North America and a good chunk of Europe are simply out of the question. Maybe a couple of other countries like this but the pickings will be slim.
I disagree with those of you who are saying that such a country doesn't exist. I already said that no country is going to have 100% of what I'm looking for but I listed my ideals just to show what I'm shooting for. I'm ok with compromising on some things as long as it's better than the US.
Many European countries allow abortion but place more restrictions on it. Of course, no Christianized country comes within spitting distance of El Salvador's abortion laws, but that country has too many other problems to be given serious consideration. Right now, I'm doing additional research on Scandinavian countries, Germany, Ireland, and Denmark.
Russia is absolutely out of the question. Besides the fact that Russia is one of Poland's arch enemies, there is very little economic opportunity, rampant corruption, incredible inequality, higher crime, and a lack of democracy. Turkey is also a no-go. Why are 3rd world countries like Afghanistan even being brought up? I understand that people like to troll on online forums, but still.
Really? Look, most (Western) European countries, Canada, Australia, and NZ are all socially liberal. More liberal than the US, so likely more liberal than what you're looking for (I grew up in Canada, and my parents are British, so I have know what I'm talking about, btw).
I think most of the West is more liberal/left-wing than the US, both economically and socially. Maybe you should consider moving to a more left-wing country (for the economic liberalism) but to a rural area (where it's more socially conservative). I'm sorry if you prefer cities, because cities tend to be socially liberal.
Plenty Caribbean islands have those characteristics, though perhaps not part of the so-called first world. You also would need to determine whether or not you can handle being a minority. In certain islands, that may make you a target, so do your research.
Socially it works for him, but the OP wants a democratic socialist economy. Singapore is very capitalist though. There is a huge disparity between the wealthy and the workers. I've been there. Some people really struggle while some live really large.
The OP should try South Korea then. Abortion is legal, but South Korea is extremely homophobic and extremely sexist, and quite Christian as well, especially by East Asian standard.
If he's really looking for an equal AND conservative country, then I suggest the OP to reincarcerate to a parellel universe. There's no such society in this one lol.
Last edited by Greysholic; 06-18-2016 at 06:39 PM..
The OP should try South Korea then. Abortion is legal, but South Korea is extremely homophobic and extremely sexist, and quite Christian as well, especially by East Asian standard.
If he's really looking for an equal AND conservative country, then I suggest the OP to reincarcerate to a parellel universe. There's no such society in this one lol.
He should go back to jail?
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