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View Poll Results: Which is better?
Mogadishu, Somalia 15 27.27%
Flint, Michigan, United States 40 72.73%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-17-2017, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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MDR

Comparing a poor city to one of the most dangerous in the world...

That's quite interesting
Just for the record, the comment "one of the most dangerous cities in the world" is referring to Flint, correct?
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Central Jersey/NYC Metro Area
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Flint...at least there's a government.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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I was in the Army for 7 years, 3 deployments. One of them was in Bagram, I crewed on CH47s that occasionally dropped off assault teams of mixed contractors, special forces, black operators, and the like. Don't believe the movies about how good these guys are; in real life they are much tougher!

One time in particular (Afghanistan-Pakistan border) a 5'6" wiry, arabic-looking man, clean-shaven, with an Australian accent said, "I'd do this 10 times over before I go back to Mogadishu even 1 more time."
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Public tap water is safe to drink in Mogadishu, but apparently not in Flint..

I've never been to Mogadishu, but I've been to Somalia. It's quite nice, the people are friendly and genuine. In the absence of effective government administration, they are proud of their country and want it to be a good place to live and they do what they can, locally, to achieve that goal.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:30 PM
 
Location: USA
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C'mon, this is ridiculous. Flint is a poor place that's struggling with massive infrastructure issues, among other things, but it's not a war-ravaged city in a country with no government holding things together and a sizable chunk of people so desperate that they are becoming armed pirates.

Ridiculous.
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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C'mon, this is ridiculous. Flint is a poor place that's struggling with massive infrastructure issues, among other things, but it's not a war-ravaged city in a country with no government holding things together and a sizable chunk of people so desperate that they are becoming armed pirates.

Ridiculous.
America is a country with "a sizable chunk of people so desperate that" they comprise the highest incarceration rate in the world. Somalis stopped becoming armed pirates five years ago, and the country is generally a peace and security.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy...apse_of_piracy
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:43 AM
 
Location: USA
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America is a country with "a sizable chunk of people so desperate that" they comprise the highest incarceration rate in the world.
We have the highest incarceration rate in the world because of our failed war on drugs that locked up people for possessing even small amounts of marijuana, not because people were going out like struggling Somalis and hijacking shipping vessels.
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Abut half of all incarcerated Americans are serving time for drug offenses. But if they were all released tomorrow, the US rate would still be higher than every significant* country except Russia and Thailand, and it is likely that many of their prisoners are there on drug charges, too.

* -- The US would rank about 25th, and nearly all those above the US are micro-nations, mostly on islands.
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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Abut half of all incarcerated Americans are serving time for drug offenses. But if they were all released tomorrow, the US rate would still be higher than every significant* country except Russia and Thailand, and it is likely that many of their prisoners are there on drug charges, too.

* -- The US would rank about 25th, and nearly all those above the US are micro-nations, mostly on islands.
We are wandering from the original point. What I'm saying is that while Flint is on hard times, I think it's hyperbolic and honestly a bit offensive to the people of Flint to compare them to a region that has no strong unified government, is under constant terrorist infiltration from groups like al-Shabbab, constantly suffers from famine, etc.

Flint is unsafe. Flint is poor. Flint has bad water. I get that. I just think it's absolutely crazy that we are equating it with a third world nation that is riddled with many, many more problems. Flint never required an extensive US military operation to ensure UN food aid was being properly distributed.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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C'mon, this is ridiculous. Flint is a poor place that's struggling with massive infrastructure issues, among other things, but it's not a war-ravaged city in a country with no government holding things together and a sizable chunk of people so desperate that they are becoming armed pirates.

Ridiculous.
Come on it's 2018, Describing the US as the categorically worst place on earth is in style, especially among arnarcho-communist American High School and University aged kids.
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