U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > World
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-17-2017, 01:48 PM
 
942 posts, read 589,113 times
Reputation: 968

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Return2FL View Post
I hate to burst your bubble, but I'm not a Fox News viewer. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the UK and as a religious group, the youngest. The most common name for newborn boys in the UK is Mohammad if you allow for the various spellings of the same name. What does that indicate for the future? It's a shame that Europeans will happily whistle past the graveyard as their culture gets eroded.
It's the fastest growing because Christianity is on the wane in the UK which is becoming increasingly more secular. And Mohammed is popular because Islam likes to honour its prophet and a large percentage of males have some variation of it as a first or second name, plus there is a far greater variety of native English Christian names (or names derived from elsewhere). And European culture is strong enough to absorb a small percentage of other cultures without losing too much of its own. It seems that some Americans so want Europe to fall to "teh nasty muslems" to feel better about themselves. It's not going to happen, you'll have to feel your schadenfreude some other way.

BTW, and this is for the Xboxchild too, where I live in a leafy, North London suburb, most of the people identifying as muslim are of Turkish descent. And guess what? They are normal, happy, hard-working folk just like you and I.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-17-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Winland/Binland - Yurop
21,492 posts, read 12,607,379 times
Reputation: 9587
Quote:
Originally Posted by Return2FL View Post
The most common name for newborn boys in the UK is Mohammad if you allow for the various spellings of the same name.
Actually it's Oliver. On second place is Jack. But whatever fuels your paranoia.

BTW, I have some land to sell in Florida. I think you're a suitable customer.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2017, 02:05 PM
 
1,846 posts, read 480,096 times
Reputation: 1770
Quote:
Originally Posted by pbobcat View Post
It's the fastest growing because Christianity is on the wane in the UK which is becoming increasingly more secular. And Mohammed is popular because Islam likes to honour its prophet and a large percentage of males have some variation of it as a first or second name, plus there is a far greater variety of native English Christian names (or names derived from elsewhere). And European culture is strong enough to absorb a small percentage of other cultures without losing too much of its own. It seems that some Americans so want Europe to fall to "teh nasty muslems" to feel better about themselves. It's not going to happen, you'll have to feel your schadenfreude some other way.

BTW, and this is for the Xboxchild too, where I live in a leafy, North London suburb, most of the people identifying as muslim are of Turkish descent. And guess what? They are normal, happy, hard-working folk just like you and I.
I'd say that most Americans don't want Europe to lose its cultures. Many of the populations are relatively small and thus the cultures more easily influenced than you might care to acknowledge. I used to keep my head in the sand too, but life taught me otherwise.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2017, 02:22 PM
 
942 posts, read 589,113 times
Reputation: 968
Quote:
Originally Posted by Return2FL View Post
I'd say that most Americans don't want Europe to lose its cultures. Many of the populations are relatively small and thus the cultures more easily influenced than you might care to acknowledge. I used to keep my head in the sand too, but life taught me otherwise.
Well, I did say "some" and I don't necessarily include you among them, despite my post being in response to yours, but I do find a weird attitude from some Americans (not just on here) lamenting the fall of European identity while at the same time feeling rather smug about it.

I wouldn't call the populations of the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, etc, particularly small, and these countries have very strong cultural identities which aren't going to be diminished anytime soon.

Oh, and my head certainly isn't in the sand. I've lived in London in all but one of my forty-plus years on this planet and I speak through my day-to-day experience of living in this vibrant, fascinating city. We are NOT being overrun by terrorists forcing us to adopt Sharia law, however much some of you would like to believe so. End of.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2017, 03:50 PM
 
3,236 posts, read 1,850,123 times
Reputation: 3785
UK. Joining a church, temple, etc. in the U.S. is still very much the norm.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2017, 03:51 PM
 
3,236 posts, read 1,850,123 times
Reputation: 3785
Quote:
Originally Posted by Return2FL View Post
I'd say that most Americans don't want Europe to lose its cultures. Many of the populations are relatively small and thus the cultures more easily influenced than you might care to acknowledge. I used to keep my head in the sand too, but life taught me otherwise.
I'm not sure that the average American knows much about Slovenian culture, Estonian culture, Albanian culture, Bulgarian culture, etc.... let alone has any concerns about those cultures. Americans think much more about their own state of affairs, and I don't think they're too concerned about American culture either, which seems pretty healthy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2017, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
7,582 posts, read 5,173,150 times
Reputation: 4169
Quote:
Originally Posted by Return2FL View Post
I hate to burst your bubble, but I'm not a Fox News viewer. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the UK and as a religious group, the youngest. The most common name for newborn boys in the UK is Mohammad if you allow for the various spellings of the same name. What does that indicate for the future? It's a shame that Europeans will happily whistle past the graveyard as their culture gets eroded.
Not all muslims are the same. Muslims, like Jews and Christians have different " orthodoxy " for lack of a better word.

Do I get worried because people name their children after Christian saints? Should I?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2017, 04:58 PM
 
3,615 posts, read 2,963,401 times
Reputation: 3012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ottawa2011 View Post
I'm not sure that the average American knows much about Slovenian culture, Estonian culture, Albanian culture, Bulgarian culture, etc.... let alone has any concerns about those cultures. Americans think much more about their own state of affairs, and I don't think they're too concerned about American culture either, which seems pretty healthy.
Right sort of like how the lefties try to label it a Muslim ban...when Indonesia wasn't even one of the banned countries. If you wanted to ban Muslims you would think you'd go after the largest one.

In the mind of lefties?? I guess not. Thus we call it, lefty logic. Or logic that doesn't even make sense to a 5 year old.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2017, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Scotland
7,839 posts, read 8,401,109 times
Reputation: 3935
What is with the constant broad brushing with Americans? There are a plethora of views in between right and left. It is all so tribal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2017, 05:37 PM
 
1,846 posts, read 480,096 times
Reputation: 1770
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ottawa2011 View Post
I'm not sure that the average American knows much about Slovenian culture, Estonian culture, Albanian culture, Bulgarian culture, etc.... let alone has any concerns about those cultures. Americans think much more about their own state of affairs, and I don't think they're too concerned about American culture either, which seems pretty healthy.
Gee, thanks for telling me what I know and don't know or what I think or don't think about.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $99,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > World

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2017, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 - Top