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Old 11-06-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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United States is a country which based on secular principles. But for the Americans religion seems more important. Surveys show us there are so much people do not believe in evolution and they think god created earth 10,000 years ago..

4 in 10 Americans still support creationism. As I said, US based on secular principles but practically it is not working like that. I have no idea about US and UK education system, which one is better ?

I think USA has really serious problem with its politicians they might be feeding from religion and they might be using spiritual things for the getting the votes.

UK isn't based on secular principles but people in the UK, they generally think evolution is fact.

But between USA and UK population rates not fair. UK has 65 million people, USA 320 million.




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In U.S., 42% Believe Creationist View of Human Origins | Gallup
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Old 11-06-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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Easy answer, USA, yet of course unlike the USA where there is no official state church, the UK has a state church which is the Anglican church. Even so at least half of the UK population classifies themselves as Christian. Unlike in the US where at least three quarters classify themselves as Christian.
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Old 11-06-2016, 07:39 PM
 
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Although the UK has a state church, the general mindset people have is more secular. Americans are significantly more enthused about ensuring religion has a strong presence in society.
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Old 11-06-2016, 07:50 PM
 
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Although the UK has a state church, the general mindset people have is more secular. Americans seem significantly more enthused about religion having a strong presence in society.
UK is more secular but you really can't generalize. As an American I can hardly believe that there are people who believe the earth is what? 10,000 years old? Probably in some parts of the USA there are a lot of people who believe things like that but they are balanced out by other parts of the USA in which people would just laugh at something like that.

US was created for separation of church and state, not necessarily separation from religion. In general, it originally only meant that no government can tell us what religion to belong to. In other words, we don't have a national religion. We were set up so that we could worship as we please without persecution. Now many do not worship at all and, among those who do, there are many different religions.
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Old 11-06-2016, 07:53 PM
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United States is a country which based on secular principles. But for the Americans religion seems more important. Surveys show us there are so much people do not believe in evolution and they think god created earth 10,000 years ago..

4 in 10 Americans still support creationism. As I said, US based on secular principles but practically it is not working like that. I have no idea about US and UK education system, which one is better ?

I think USA has really serious problem with its politicians they might be feeding from religion and they might be using spiritual things for the getting the votes.

UK isn't based on secular principles but people in the UK, they generally think evolution is fact.

But between USA and UK population rates not fair. UK has 65 million people, USA 320 million.




Americans Vs British Creationism Or Evolution - Business Insider

In U.S., 42% Believe Creationist View of Human Origins | Gallup
Religion and Spiritual are not interchangeable words.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:09 PM
 
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Although the UK has a state church, the general mindset people have is more secular. Americans are significantly more enthused about ensuring religion has a strong presence in society.
I see it getting worst and worst each year.

All of a sudden now everyone is obsessed with abortion, it's quite annoying.
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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Which geographical region of the US has more secular people ? I think New England might be has most secular people.
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:22 AM
 
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New England/ East Coast and the PAcific NW/ West Coast are the most secular. I don't know about in New England but on the west coast the secularism is mostly along the water go 50 miles in and it isn't as secular anymore.
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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US, due to the official separation of Church and State.

You would never have a public school taking all their students - regardless of their personal religion (Hindu, Muslim, Catholic, Protestant, agnostic)- to the local Anglican Church for educational purposes as part of a field trip, such as my daughter experienced while a Primary student in England.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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US, due to the official separation of Church and State.

You would never have a public school taking all their students - regardless of their personal religion (Hindu, Muslim, Catholic, Protestant, agnostic)- to the local Anglican Church for educational purposes as part of a field trip, such as my daughter experienced while a Primary student in England.
There is a difference between state and people.
According to this perception, the *state* of USA is more secular, while its people is more religious.
In UK, the opposite is true.

However, asking the question "who created the universe" is not necessarily suitable for measuring the level of religiosity of each people, since most asian religions don't believe in a God, while a lot of people believe in God without following a religion.

And there is also the case of someone identifying himself with an abrahamic religion (Judaism, Chrisianity, Islam) only as a label, without following it. Sometime ago I heard about a dialogue in Belfast...

- Are you catholic or protestant?
- Neither, I'm an atheist.
- Yes, but you are a catholic atheist or a protestant atheist?
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