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Old 11-22-2016, 04:39 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Keep telling yourself that it was rigged and nothing will ever change for the Democrats. The vote was a repudiation of the Clintons and the political system as currently constructed. She said horrible things about people, she did horrible things with her power, and she is a horrible person on a personal level. Had the Democrats nominated Jim Webb or Martin O'Malley, they would have won in a landslide. Instead the Democrat choices came down to left or further left and people are fed up with that. Furthermore, it was confirmation that the core of America is still about individualism and against collectivism.
I'm not familiar with her saying horrible things about people, but even so, if all of this is true, how is she any different from Trump in that regard? If that's your criterion for voting against someone, you'd have had to vote against Trump as well, or just stay home, because you just described Trump.
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Old 11-22-2016, 05:26 PM
 
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Those fringe nutcases have been denounced by Trump - he probably had never heard of them before anyway. On the other hand Hillary appealed to the open borders crowd and the lunatic fringe left, plus those who think she deserved the WH because of her sex. The Trumpster appealed to the rustbelt blue collar workers who have been forgotten by the elitists in both parties. That's where he won, and I hope the Europeans don't ignore that fact.
Of course he'll denounce them. He's not that much of an idiot.
That doesn't change that his language during his campaign, he gave these groups confidence that they're right, & now they have a guy who "says the right things".
I could see this happening a mile away.

Please don't bother with terms like "lunatic left", this is the world forum....
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Old 11-22-2016, 06:57 PM
 
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Of course he'll denounce them. He's not that much of an idiot.
That doesn't change that his language during his campaign, he gave these groups confidence that they're right, & now they have a guy who "says the right things".
I could see this happening a mile away.

Please don't bother with terms like "lunatic left", this is the world forum....
Don't bother with terms like the lunatic left and this is the world forum? How is the left doing all over the world, especially places where the left has was synonymous with like Switzerland, Denmark,Hungary?

France????? Greece? Austria?Netherlands? Putin and Russia?Colombia? Egypt? Israel? Philippines? South Korea? Singapore? Where?

Where is the left doing well? Cuba. Venezuela for sure!

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Old 11-22-2016, 07:23 PM
 
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A native of Florida questioning where the left is doing well?

Now there's an irony for you.

Without the welfare handouts and Disneyland, Florida would revert to the swamp it was before big monied lefties got it rolling.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...able.html?_r=0
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Don't bother with terms like the lunatic left and this is the world forum? How is the left doing all over the world, especially places where the left has was synonymous with like Switzerland, Denmark,Hungary?

France????? Greece? Austria?Netherlands? Putin and Russia?Colombia? Egypt? Israel? Philippines? South Korea? Singapore? Where?

Where is the left doing well? Cuba. Venezuela for sure!
I bet you were trembling with excitement when you were writing this post. It's barely comprehensible, though. Pro tip: try to gather your thoughts properly before going on the next rant.
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Funny how this topic is completely overrun by Americans when it's clearly asking the opinions of foreigners.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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I bet you were trembling with excitement when you were writing this post. It's barely comprehensible, though. Pro tip: try to gather your thoughts properly before going on the next rant.
How is it not comprehensible? I asked how is the left doing all over the world, especially places where the left has was synonymous with like Switzerland, Denmark,Hungary?

France????? Greece? Netherlands? Putin and Russia? Colombia? Egypt? Israel? Philippines? South Korea? Singapore?

Other than Cuba, Venezuela, and lets add North Korea, where is the left flourishing ?

How are your Austrian elections looking for the left?
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:13 PM
 
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Funny how this topic is completely overrun by Americans when it's clearly asking the opinions of foreigners.
I find that Americans become defensive when a non-American shares his or her opinion on American politics.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:24 PM
 
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A native of Florida questioning where the left is doing well?

Now there's an irony for you.

Without the welfare handouts and Disneyland, Florida would revert to the swamp it was before big monied lefties got it rolling.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...able.html?_r=0
What? The left isn't doing well anywhere in the world and in america most blue states are losing population in huge numbers, it will be a huge change for electoral college in 2020 . I also doubt many of the rich in Florida are lefties. Obviously Donald trump, but Huizenga, Koch, etc, but who cares about who the rich vote for. The liberal rich and media and celebrity elite certainly didn't determine the last election, the populist right and many rust belt states determined the election.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:36 PM
 
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What? The left isn't doing well anywhere in the world and in america most blue states are losing population in huge numbers, it will be a huge change for electoral college in 2020 . I also doubt many of the rich in Florida are lefties. Obviously Donald trump, but Huizenga, Koch, etc, but who cares about who the rich vote for. The liberal rich and media and celebrity elite certainly didn't determine the last election, the populist right and many rust belt states determined the election.
You forget. Even in Red States(right conservative ones) the larger cities are blue and liberal run. That includes booming in population US sunbelt cities a Houston, Dallas, Atlanta and more in Red States. It's the major cities and its suburbs booming in growth anyway in Red states.

You seem like a extremist seeing more liberal citizens as sub-human lower life-forms? I'm a Moderate in the center understanding both sides and not fond of either sides extreme wings.

But we need to leave non-Americans have tiger views. As that is the topic here and you forget, ALL Europe is far more Right (Liberal) then just Greece or France you highlighted.
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