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Old 12-13-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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And what do you think the citizens would think about this?
For example, a majority of swedes are for monarchy and against both NATO and the Euro.
The republic/monarchy issue is the smallest on the list. Today, the Nordic monarchies are constitutional and hold no true power. In a scenario where we were united, an arrangement could be made where each royal house could keep its titles. If you ask me though, it would be a good opportunity to get rid of those old undemocratic institutions, but oh well.

The main issue on the list as I see it, is the suggestion that Stockholm should become capital. The suggestion alone is an insult to Danes and Norwegians. It will never happen. Oslo would be a lot more acceptable choice at least for Danes, however maybe not for Swedes or Finns.

Euro/NATO – while there is opposition against both organisations, I wouldn’t say it’s unrealistic. For example, before the financial crisis, Danes were pro Euro. And in Sweden and Finland, the topic of joining NATO is almost always present in the media/debate – or at least when your common neighbour is acting more crazy than usual. :P
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Old 12-13-2016, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Ok, if we assume that the Nordic Countries would unite, the core problems would be:

  • Republic or Monarchy?
  • If monarchy, what house?
  • NATO or not NATO?
  • EU or not?
  • Euro or krona?
  • Capital?
  • Special treatment to Faroe Islands and Greenland?
  • What is there for Iceland?
What's the point though? Aren't you guys all doing (more than) fine? The borders are completely open and everyone up there only pays by card, it's not like there's any hassle for traveling or working in each country.
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Old 12-13-2016, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Finland
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What's the point though? Aren't you guys all doing (more than) fine? The borders are completely open and everyone up there only pays by card, it's not like there's any hassle for traveling or working in each country.
I don't see any point, really. I just used it as an example how complicated it would be even for very similar nations. Especially when people said that Argentina and Uruguay cannot join because Uruguay is more "introverted".
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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I don't see any point, really. I just used it as an example how complicated it would be even for very similar nations. Especially when people said that Argentina and Uruguay cannot join because Uruguay is more "introverted".
You need to learn to read, I never said they couldn't join because of that difference. I said I wouldn't like to see Uruguayan culture engulfed by a huge country like Argentina.

I actually speak Spanish and spend time in Uruguay often. I love the music, literature and many other things from that country. Have you ever even been there?
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Norway
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What's the point though? Aren't you guys all doing (more than) fine? The borders are completely open and everyone up there only pays by card, it's not like there's any hassle for traveling or working in each country.
The countries in the Nordic region are like a middle class neighbourhood. We go to each others houses, we compare and compete against each other at everything, but we won't move in together under the same roof.
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Old 12-14-2016, 12:45 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Colombia and Venezuela are countries that shouldn't have split up in the first place. There is a familiarity there that a border just messes with people's heads and creates a division that shouldn't exist. There's always been a fluidity between these two countries, that a border almost doesn't make sense.

I suppose the only saving grace is when one country makes a bad decision, the strength of the other serves as a counterweight. Colombia and Venezuela have never both been in a good position at the same time. Either one has been doing well whilst the other is in a disaster. If both countries achieved a prosperous era at the same time, northern South America would advance really quickly.
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Old 12-14-2016, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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You need to learn to read, I never said they couldn't join because of that difference. I said I wouldn't like to see Uruguayan culture engulfed by a huge country like Argentina.

I actually speak Spanish and spend time in Uruguay often. I love the music, literature and many other things from that country. Have you ever even been there?
There are some other differences too, in Uruguay people literally walk everywhere with a thermos and mate, in Argentina you'd never see that. Usually Argentinians don't carry their mate everywhere, or if they do they keep it in a backpack
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:34 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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There are some other differences too, in Uruguay people literally walk everywhere with a thermos and mate, in Argentina you'd never see that. Usually Argentinians don't carry their mate everywhere, or if they do they keep it in a backpack
Argentinian's carry their 'mates' around in their backpacks!
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Uruguayans carry their mate in hand.

Argentinians carry their mate in backpacks.

I have never heard of two peoples so incompatible and alien to one another.
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Ivory Coast and Ghana.
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