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Old 11-27-2016, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Kansas/China
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The East African Federation. They have a common currency set to release in 2018. Trade, border security, and a common passport have also been under work. 10-15 years and I could see some if not all of the 6 countries unified.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Federation
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Old 11-27-2016, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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The East African Federation. They have a common currency set to release in 2018. Trade, border security, and a common passport have also been under work. 10-15 years and I could see some if not all of the 6 countries unified.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Federation
They've been saying this for decades. I remember when the currency was 'primed' to go live in 2015. Nope!
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Old 11-27-2016, 11:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Not entirely sure, if you really want to be schooled on that topic?
Actually, I'd be interested in some background information as I have never heard much as to why other than Austria was part of the Hapsburg/ Austro-Hungarian empire and Germany has different history to some degree.
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Old 11-27-2016, 11:59 PM
 
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Guatemala would have been better off if it had stayed part of Mexico.
Why do you think so?

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Old 11-28-2016, 12:30 AM
 
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I think it would be great if Canada and America had like a "economical union". Do you guys think that's likely?
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Old 11-28-2016, 01:18 AM
 
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Germany and Austria for sure....why are they separate countries anyway
Because it's more fun to have two German speaking states than just one duh.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:04 AM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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Actually, I'd be interested in some background information as I have never heard much as to why other than Austria was part of the Hapsburg/ Austro-Hungarian empire and Germany has different history to some degree.
Germany having a different history to some degree is quite an understatement.

In theory Austria and the various German states were connected through the HRE and later the German Confederation. However, there are some things to consider:

1. The HRE was pretty much powerless after the Peace of Westphalia in 1648.

The separate states of the HRE were recognised as sovereign members, free to control their own affairs independently of the emperor. Subsequently, the Habsburg refocused on the territories directly under their control, namely the Austrian archduchies, Hungary and Bohemia and (successfully) tried to expand them.

Even before the Peace of Westphalia, one can't really argue that the Empire was a single unit considering the quarrels and wars started by the Reformation.

2. Troubles with Prussia (and other parts of present-day Germany) after the HRE.

This chapter really started during the War of Austrian Succession and the Seven Years' War (around 1740). A trend that never really stopped. Yes, Germany and Austria were once again united under the German Confederation, but the rivalry between Prussia and Austria prevented it from being functional and the individual states had even more autonomy than under the HRE. Interactions between the states were rather limited.

Besides, Austria was confronted with an internal dilemma (the Hungarian Compromise) and later on with full-on war with Prussia (Austro-Prussian War). All things that played a role in the development of the Austrian national identity as opposed to a single German identity. There simply wasn't a lot of shared identity. Besides war. I guess this issue was finally settled by the Congress of Berlin when Austria found its niche as an independent Empire cut off from the German Empire.

3. Post-WW1 Experience.

Long story short: The sudden fall of the Empire, Dollfuß, Schuschnigg, clerical fascism, civil war between Socialists and Conservatives, national socialist coups. All events that were unique to Austria and that are influencing politics to this very day.

4. Post-WW2 Experience.

Austria never had to deal with being separated after WW2. It had a major impact on German society that we just can't grasp. Nor did it really affect the Austrian state.

All in all, I just don't think that Austria and Germany are close enough for a unification. We are pretty much doing our own thing since 1648 and developed our own identity and culture ever since. The only period of time both countries were under a single government was between 1938 and 1945. No one has to remind me that a lot of Austrians were quite eager to join Germany back than, but I think in retrospective it's safe to say that we are better off as two countries.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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I think it would be great if Canada and America had like a "economical union". Do you guys think that's likely?
Well... Trump promised to get rid of that economical union. It's called NAFTA.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:22 AM
 
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Well... Trump promised to get rid of that economical union. It's called NAFTA.
No with a common currency, more like the European Union type thing with Canada and America.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:29 AM
 
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No with a common currency, more like the European Union type thing with Canada and America.
I doubt Canadians would want that.

The U.S. would dominate an American-Canadian union even more than Germany dominates the European Union.
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