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Old 03-15-2017, 07:32 AM
 
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I would think that conservative Christians would be the opposite of what the OP is asking about which is enlightenment.
That's the view among the general public, but it's generally misinformed or outdated. Among academics, the secular world view has been on the wane for more than a generation and considered far from "enlightened".

 
Old 03-15-2017, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Based on your experiences, where do you personally believe are the most enlightened cities in North America
and the rest of the world?

By "enlightened", I am referring to intelligent/aware, possibly creative, open-minded and just an overall sense of rational, independent thinking that doesn't follow the herd mentality.

Curious to see some input. Thanks!
In North America? Seattle, San Francisco, Boston, New York, and Washington DC (not including the White House or elected officials). I'd also add all of Canada's major cities - Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver.

In Europe. I'd say London, Paris, Berlin, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Amsterdam...and others...that list could go for awhile. But, generally the cities that are a bit more north and a bit more west....with some exceptions of course.

I'm speaking to a predominately euro-centric western-centric audience here...so I'll stop right there...people get real uppity if you mention anywhere outside of those two continents.
 
Old 03-16-2017, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I've been a member of the science/STEM community for pretty much all of my adult life. It's as biased, petty, frivolous, closed-minded and dogmatic as any floridly partisan political group in the world. The only difference is that, at least until recently, they did a better PR job of hiding their undesirable tendencies from the unwashed masses.

Neither is physical science, especially of the type that warrants Arctic/Antarctic research, the most intellectually rigorous domain of knowledge. Not by a long shot. That honor belongs to analytic philosophy, followed probably by the more abstract subsets of mathematics.
True. I was more making a joke than anything.

People suck, regardless of where you are.

Also, most people who consider gloat on the fact of how open minded they are, are most likely horrible offenders of being close minded.
 
Old 03-16-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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In North America? Seattle, San Francisco, Boston, New York, and Washington DC (not including the White House or elected officials). I'd also add all of Canada's major cities - Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver.

In Europe. I'd say London, Paris, Berlin, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Amsterdam...and others...that list could go for awhile. But, generally the cities that are a bit more north and a bit more west....with some exceptions of course.

I'm speaking to a predominately euro-centric western-centric audience here...so I'll stop right there...people get real uppity if you mention anywhere outside of those two continents.
Even in those cities there are plenty of brain dead stupid people there, the only real difference between places like Toronto/San Francisco/Washington, DC and places like Sudbury, ON or Fort Wayne, IN is that they are usually more left of center politically. Europe and even Australia/New Zealand do have a few advantages over North America though since people there tend to be much more well traveled than North Americans in general and as a result are much more inclined to follow and discuss world affairs.

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Old 03-16-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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"Enlightened city" in America 0_0? Country where the most atheistic city has 80% religious people, imagine the most religious ones. Western Europe is also too far right to be "enlightened".

Anyway, the most englishtened will some areas on the Levant ("cradle of civilization") especially Israel and to an extent Lebanon. Japan, China too(excluding their waged war on dogs and reluctance to abandon commie bull****). Possibily part of the balkans and also Italy.
 
Old 03-16-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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"Enlightened city" in America 0_0? Country where the most atheistic city has 80% religious people, imagine the most religious ones. Western Europe is also too far right to be "enlightened".

Anyway, the most englishtened will some areas on the Levant ("cradle of civilization") especially Israel and to an extent Lebanon. Japan, China too(excluding their waged war on dogs and reluctance to abandon commie bull****). Possibily part of the balkans and also Italy.
The Levant? you mean the part of the war tearing each other apart in a brutal war?
Isreal? You mean the country with a right-wing government who steal land?
The Balkans? The place where genocide took place 20 years ago?
 
Old 03-16-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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[quote=paull805;47533811]The Levant? you mean the part of the war tearing each other apart in a brutal war?
Isreal? You mean the country with a right-wing government who steal land?
The Balkans? The place where genocide took place 20 years ago?[/QUOT

Balkan is geographical term that includes >80% of Greece(excluding the islands). I can't help if the West thinks not in terms of geography but in terms of "serbian pro-russians", "bulgaria and romania" and "our favorite greece which has nothing in common with the rest".
Israel stealing land? Lol, typical antisemite that defends christian/islamic geocentric theories over a country with >20% nobel laureats and 1t in the world in startups/capita.
 
Old 03-16-2017, 06:36 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Originally Posted by floridaboy92 View Post
Based on your experiences, where do you personally believe are the most enlightened cities in North America
and the rest of the world?

By "enlightened", I am referring to intelligent/aware, possibly creative, open-minded and just an overall sense of rational, independent thinking that doesn't follow the herd mentality.

Curious to see some input. Thanks!
If there are any in N America, they're in Canada. The US has entered the Dark Ages.
 
Old 03-16-2017, 06:38 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Reikyavik?
 
Old 03-16-2017, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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Reikyavik?
That's what I said. They seem to have their ***** together up there.
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