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Old 03-20-2017, 08:51 AM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_wealth

Australia : US$6.428 trillion
Brazil : US$2.537 trillion

Brazil has 9 times the population.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Military power is not associated with wealth. In a one vs. one fight, Australia would lose to Brazil. You guys are saying basically because Switzerland is wealthy China or India won't be able to take it out military wise... That doesn't make any sense at all. The Mongol Empire was created when one of the poorest regions in Asia took over the rest of Asia. Mr.Falcon is right, population is critical in influence as well as military and wealth. But Australia has lots of powerful nations near it and doesn't dominate its region the way Brazil dominates it's region.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Not only in military, but in all indicators.
Funny is to see all the same people ignore all data just to raise their favorite country.

I do love Australia, but any kid knows that it's a very small country in population. Brazil is a lot more rich an diversified, no comparisson. For the working class it's obviously less advantageous to work in Brazil than in a high income country, but with you talk about the contry it's ridiculous to compare Australia to Brazil.

Only in Greater São Paulo we have an whole Australia.
I think nobody doubts Brazil is one of the biggest powers if not the biggest in the Southern Hem. But though Australia has a small population, it's one of the biggest economies in the world, equal with Russia.

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There are only two countries that can claim to be global powers; all others are regional players, or at best globally relevant in maybe one or two industries.
Lol no. Global powers outside the usual suspects are UK, France, China, Germany and Japan.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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Brazil has a bigger economy than Russia and Australia.

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GDP (PPP) : Indonesia > Brazil > Australia > Argentina > South Africa
In the estimative of IMF Indonesia and Brazil are supposed to have 3.2 in PPP. In the World Bank ranking of 2015, Brazil>Indonesia (3.1 > 2.8)
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Brazilian minimum wage is £1 an hour and you think you are a powerhouse
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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Indonesia is capable of overtaking Australia and Brazil!

Top 5 countries in the Southern Hemisphere by each measure:
Area : Brazil > Australia > Argentina > The D.R. of the Congo > Indonesia
Population : Indonesia > Brazil > The D.R. of the Congo > South Africa > Tanzania
GDP (nominal) : Brazil > Australia > Indonesia > Argentina > South Africa
GDP (PPP) : Indonesia > Brazil > Australia > Argentina > South Africa
National wealth : Australia > Brazil > Indonesia > New Zealand
Colombia is almost on par with South Africa both at nominal and PPP.
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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Lol no. Global powers outside the usual suspects are UK, France, China, Germany and Japan.
The US and China are definitely global powers, and Japan is certainly globally relevant in a few key industries but lacking the broader ability to project hard and soft power. France, Germany, Russia and the UK are regional; their influence in areas like the Asia-Pacific is pretty limited.
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:56 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Brazilian minimum wage is £1 an hour and you think you are a powerhouse
At global level it is a middle power, but in the context of Latin America it is a powerhouse.
But it's awkward your criteria for stating what is a powerhouse. Wages are higher in Slovenia than in Russia. Is Slovenia more powerful than Russia?
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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Well there are no major powers in the Southern hemisphere, but there are Middle Powers like Australia, Indonesia, Brazil, Argentina and South Africa.
This. There are only 6-7 countries in the world (or 10-11 at most if you go for a more loose approach) that could be labeled as "major powers", and not a single SH country is among them.
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Finland
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France, Germany, Russia and the UK are regional; their influence in areas like the Asia-Pacific is pretty limited.
Lol no.
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