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Old 05-02-2017, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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lol as much as I admire KLM's love for the city and as much as it is a growing and appealing all around city, its certainly a good 100 or 200 years away from being the capital of the world. This of course would have to mean the existing top dogs (NYC and London) probably fit the bill the strongest would need to stagnate (Highly unlikely). In addition there are so many other cities rising in prominence stronger than Toronto. Certainly I think if the big two are going to be challenged I don't think it'll come from N.A or even Europe but Asia mmmaybe the M.E - not Tokyo either and probably a Chinese city though i'm keeping an eye on Dubai, Kuala Lumpur and Mumbai!
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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lol as much as I admire KLM's love for the city and as much as it is a growing and appealing all around city, its certainly a good 100 or 200 years away from being the capital of the world. This of course would have to mean the existing top dogs (NYC and London) probably fit the bill the strongest would need to stagnate (Highly unlikely). In addition there are so many other cities rising in prominence stronger than Toronto. Certainly I think if the big two are going to be challenged I don't think it'll come from N.A or even Europe but Asia mmmaybe the M.E - not Tokyo either and probably a Chinese city though i'm keeping an eye on Dubai, Kuala Lumpur and Mumbai!
London and New York are congested. Why would you want and old frumpy capital when you could have clean, crisp and new capital . Also Manhattan smell like pee? Not joking. You have to PAY to use toilets in London. Both cities are already crowed. Some times you a little clean space to unwind ! Our city does not smell like pee and in our city you don't need to pay to use the toilet. It is the little things like this that totally ad up !
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Old 05-02-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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London and New York are congested. Why would you want and old frumpy capital when you could have clean, crisp and new capital . Also Manhattan smell like pee? Not joking. You have to PAY to use toilets in London. Both cities are already crowed. Some times you a little clean space to unwind ! Our city does not smell like pee and in our city you don't need to pay to use the toilet. It is the little things like this that totally ad up !
Oh brother, I like a clean and green city myself. But there is far far more criteria here then pay-to-use UK Loo LOL. Just use the Hotel Facilities, fast food eateries to coffee shops that give you a key LOL. At least in NYC....

I'm still waiting for that thread saying Toronto will overtake NYC by maybe 2050 as The Top NA city at least.... . Yep, little things matter (like extras in aesthetics) But even for Toronto? Size matters - height, length and girth too. Maybe too much cold with snow is a reason a city won't rule too? Forget the rest of the criteria .....

Too congested means for density? Fa'geta'bout'it too then.

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Old 05-02-2017, 08:42 PM
 
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Do you notice how nobody else disagreed with me except for you.
It's actually been covered elsewhere why simply comparing country versus country is an incorrect way of approaching this question. That's because global connectivity allows some cities to act as a conduit or overflow for economic activity in other countries.

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Old 05-02-2017, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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London and New York are congested. Why would you want and old frumpy capital when you could have clean, crisp and new capital . Also Manhattan smell like pee? Not joking. You have to PAY to use toilets in London. Both cities are already crowed. Some times you a little clean space to unwind ! Our city does not smell like pee and in our city you don't need to pay to use the toilet. It is the little things like this that totally ad up !
Well there are so many criteria one can use to determine 'capital' of the world. The very notion of a worldwide capital is largely useless. No city is going to have that sort of practical and cultural sphere of influence. If we look at economic clout and global interconnectedness, I think its fair to say NYC and London are probably at the top but to say either would deserve to be called a capital is a stretch and would be for any city both now and into the future. The shoes are way too big to fill and the further away you are the more abstract and behind the scenes any sort of influence becomes. Add to that cultural, linguistic, societal and political differences and it is just an impossible task for there to actually be a 'world' capital. It may make for a paper discussion on a forum but that is about as far as it goes.

At the end of the day, the most important city in the world is the one you live in because it is that place you chose to live. Everything else is immaterial

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Old 05-02-2017, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Oh brother, I like a clean and green city myself. But there is far far more criteria here then pay-to-use UK Loo LOL. Just use the Hotel Facilities, fast food eateries to coffee shops that give you a key LOL. At least in NYC....

I'm still waiting for that thread saying Toronto will overtake NYC by maybe 2050 as The Top NA city at least.... . Yep, little things matter (like extras in aesthetics) But even for Toronto? Size matters - height, length and girth too. Maybe too much cold with snow is a reason a city won't rule too? Forget the rest of the criteria .....

Too congested means for density? Fa'geta'bout'it too then.
Toronto has 4 seasons. Not as cold as people assume on average and I have never seen a polar bear in my backyard either .
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Well there are so many criteria one can use to determine 'capital' of the world. The very notion of a worldwide capital is largely useless. No city is going to have that sort of practical and cultural sphere of influence. If we look at economic clout and global interconnectedness, I think its fair to say NYC and London are probably at the top but to say either would deserve to be called a capital is a stretch and would be for any city both now and into the future. The shoes are way too big to fill and the further away you are the more abstract and behind the scenes any sort of influence becomes. Add to that cultural, linguistic, societal and political differences and it is just an impossible task for there to actually be a 'world' capital. It may make for a paper discussion on a forum but that is about as far as it goes.

At the end of the day, the most important city in the world is the one you live in because it is that place you chose to live. Everything else is immaterial
So.... is that a nice way of saying "No" regarding the question lol ?
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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So.... is that a nice way of saying "No" regarding the question lol ?
The point is i'm not really a fan of designating any city as 'capital' of the world so its hard for me to do that for any city including our own - so yeah the answer is a very Canadian no

Our city Is still awesome though and the important thing is that those of us who live here feel that way and want to make it a better place and just enjoy what it is and what it is becoming. It is not important what some person somewhere else needs to write about it to either denigrate or dismiss it.
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Old 05-03-2017, 01:45 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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London does most of it's financial trading with America and Asia.

Britain even established Hong Kong as a financial centre, and London trades in both time zones.

London is much more of an international city than simply a European city.
Which is EXACTLY the point I made about Bradford, New York is no good because its on the 'edge' of the world and most of the world is asleep when people there are awake, for a 'World Capital' you are going to at least need somewhere in the central time zone belt and English speaking is another bonus, hence Bradford which ticks both those boxes and more.
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Old 05-03-2017, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Which is EXACTLY the point I made about Bradford, New York is no good because its on the 'edge' of the world and most of the world is asleep when people there are awake, for a 'World Capital' you are going to at least need somewhere in the central time zone belt and English speaking is another bonus, hence Bradford which ticks both those boxes and more.
LOL.

Bradford is a great city, some wonderful architecture, and even has a Little Germany.



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