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Old 06-11-2017, 03:55 PM
 
Location: London, United Kingdom
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Can you list any fierce two-way city versus city rivalries in the world?

I'll explain what I am looking for in this thread. Two-way rivalries that exist between two cities in real life in any variety of ways. A two-way rivalry means that the two cities are more or less on equal footing and are nearly of equal size and/or stature with one another. In addition to the cities possibly competing against one another for something, like influence, control, or representation of an area.

No one-way rivalries please and no examples where one city is dramatically larger than the other. They need to be in the same general size range. By "cities" use their metropolitan areas.

Thoughts?

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Old 06-11-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: London, United Kingdom
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Here are some that come immediately to mind for me. All of these are roughly about equal in size or close enough in size and equal in stature or close enough with one another and they are all located in a geographic area where they directly compete with one another on one thing or the other (i.e. Beijing/Shanghai = China; Delhi/Mumbai = India; Sydney/Melbourne = Australia; Dallas/Houston = Texas; London/Paris = Western Europe; Doha/Abu Dhabi = Persian Gulf States; Zurich/Geneva = Switzerland; Hong Kong/Singapore = City-States of Asia/Financial Centers/Intermodal Global Ports, so on).

In any particular order off the top of my head, going off of memory:

01. Shanghai (28 million people) versus Beijing (25 million people)

02. Delhi (24 million people) versus Mumbai (22 million people)

03. London (14.5 million people) versus Paris (12.6 million people)

04. Hong Kong (7.3 million people) versus Singapore (6 million people)

05. Sydney (5 million people) versus Melbourne (4.6 million people)

06. Dallas/Fort Worth (7.6 million people) versus Houston (7 million people)

07. Abu Dhabi (2 million people) versus Doha (2 million people)

08. Zurich (1.9 million people) versus Geneva (1.5 million people)

09. Ho Chi Minh City (11.5 million people) versus Hanoi (10.5 million people)

10. Calgary (1.45 million people) versus Edmonton (1.35 million people)

11. San Antonio (2.47 million people) versus Austin (2.05 million people)

12. Charlotte (2.56 million people) versus Raleigh/Durham (2.15 million people)

13. Orlando (3.2 million people) versus Tampa (3.1 million people)

14. Stockholm (2.5 million people) versus Copenhagen (2.1 million people)

15. Guadalajara (4.9 million people) versus Monterrey (4.5 million people)

16. Albuquerque (1.1 million people) versus Tucson (1.05 million people) versus El Paso (1.05 million people): this one is a three-way of equally sized and equally calibered cities, all of them located in the Desert Southwest Region of the United States.

17. Bangalore (11 million people) versus Chennai (10.5 million people) versus Hyderabad (10 million people): this one is another three-way of nearly equally sized and nearly equally calibered cities, all of them are located in South India where they compete against one another for the recognition as the top billing of South India.

18. Buffalo (1.27 million people) versus Rochester (1.27 million people) versus Albany (1.27 million people): this one is yet another three-way of equally sized and nearly equally calibered cities that compete against one another in the state of New York.

19. Amsterdam (2.5 million people) versus Rotterdam (2.3 million people) versus the Hague (2.2 million people): this one is yet another three-way and what makes this one unique is that the three areas combine to form one larger metropolis -- Randstad.

20. Berlin (6.1 million people) versus Frankfurt (6.0 million people) versus Munich (5.3 million people) versus Stuttgart (5.3 million) versus Hamburg (5.0 million people): this one is a five-way. These are the largest metropolises in Germany after the Rhine-Ruhr metropolis (12 million people). All 5 of them are nearly similarly sized but specialize in different aspects.

Those are just off the top of my head, there are probably a dozen or two more examples. Can anyone list more examples?

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Old 06-12-2017, 07:25 AM
 
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São Paulo (21 million people) vs Rio de Janeiro (16 million people) in their metropolitan areas. Or SP (11 million) RJ (6 million)
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Old 06-12-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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Madrid (6.5 million) vs Barcelona (3.1 million)
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Not sure about London and Paris having a fierce rivalry.

The rivalry between London and NYC is probably more intense in terms of City v City.

France might have a history with the UK, but I can't say I get all fired up even when we are playing them in sport, indeed the joy of beating the Germans or Argentinians in football is far greater, and the same applies to rugby where the home nation fixtures provide the fiercest rivalry, whilst in Cricket our rivalry is fiercest with Australia in terms of the Ashes.

I can honestly say I don't really get that riled up in terms of rivalry with the French.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Toronto / Montréal
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Toronto / Montréal
Not that much. Only in certain demographics.
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Your list is good.

Add San Francisco vs Los Angeles. I suppose you could measure the demographics in different ways (e.g. city proper, or County vs. Bay Area), but the two cities are definitely rivals within California.

Add also Milan vs. Rome, and probably also a dozen other minor pairs in Italy.
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Paris, Île-de-France, France (Voyage en Italie)
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Lyon (city 0.5 million / metro 2.2 million) vs. Marseille (city 0.85 million / metro 1.9 million)
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Lyon - Manchester
Pop: 2,3 m vs 2,5 m
GDP, roughly same.

Turin - Lille
Pop: 1,7 m vs 1.2 m
Same gdp

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