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Old 07-11-2017, 11:35 PM
 
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Mumbai is the business heart of Indian and Shanghai is the economic engine of China. Which one would you rather do business with. I went to china and felt the people from Shanghai too business aggressive while Indians seemed more honest. Anyone experienced both places for business.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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I have no experience in India. Chinese can be aggressive, you have to be careful with quality control as many suppliers will attempt to lower part qualities to make extra profit. There are some Chinese cultural norms that will be difficult for many foreigners. Gifts that we would likely construe as bribes are incredibly common. Drinking to excess with business partners is almost mandatory. Chinese are not always honest in business deals and it's good to have some government officials in your social sphere. Getting a government permit without taking the official out to a nice dinner followed by drinks may be near impossible. Expect to give a nice bottle of wine or something similar as a gift.

For living quality it would be hard to beat Shanghais central business district and foreigner districts. The whole Shanghai metro is quite nice, Suzhou is a very nice city as well. But get out farther then that and it gets fairly poor. Shanghai has a lot of English speakers, but once you get out of the city, communicating will be hard unless one speaks Chinese, not true for India.

I'll make some speculations that might not be true about Mumbai, but is common in other cities. Not many bars or alcohol culture, limited meat options. Shanghai will have an incredible amount of both.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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You forgot the most important city ending on ai.
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:37 PM
 
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You forgot the most important city ending on ai.
Which?
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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You forgot the most important city ending on ai.
Dubai?
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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Dubai?
Nah Dubai is a logictics hub
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:43 AM
 
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Nah Dubai is a logictics hub
It has booming property market (tallest buildding, most expensive hotel), 2006 25% of all world's cranes were in dubai, its population doubled in less than a decade, the biggest stock exchange in the middle east, IT city. What other city in the world has such achievements in the 21st century?

Only Hong Kong can compare due to the rise of chinese economy + highest % of skyscrapers per sq.m and Tokyo (most populous) but neither of these has recent undertakings so to say...I'm hoping they do though as I love 'em.

I've never been to India btw but from what I've heard Bangalore beats Mumbai when it comes to IT and IT is India's most important industry.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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All depends on the type of business. From a regulatory aspect it's much easier to do business in India but the logistics are lacking. Shanghai has the technology and discipline but in many cases you are dealing with the government and anything you introduce will be eventually copied/duplicated locally and you will be pushed out.
Indians can be aggressive as well, and they don't like to be told they are wrong.
If you are in the tech field, well let's just say any info you have in China will not be secure or private, from your PC data to simply you taking a crap.

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Limited meat options. Shanghai will have an incredible amount of both.
Ahhh now we are getting into the true benefits. Shanghai is like a Sodom and Gomorrah compared to India, in fact compared to most any places.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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Ahhh now we are getting into the true benefits. Shanghai is like a Sodom and Gomorrah compared to India, in fact compared to most any places.
What? Sarcasm or are you just bonkers? Shanghai would also be a much better place for a family and children. Better schools, much less crime, cleaner. Young people still let elderly people sit in busses and trains. Chinese culture can be confusing especially when it comes to business ethics.

In a few decades Shanghai will be one of the best cities in the world. The biggest cons are water and air pollution, untreated water, and real estate prices. But relatively to similar global cities, real estate prices are where they should be.

As to the first part of the post, many foreign companies are leaving China because they can't secure their product designs. But there are so many new Chinese companies and startups it doesn't effect the economy negatively. China is finally starting to realize they have major copyright problems and many companies have sued and won to protect their products.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:55 PM
 
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What? Sarcasm or are you just bonkers? Shanghai would also be a much better place for a family and children. Better schools, much less crime, cleaner. Young people still let elderly people sit in busses and trains. Chinese culture can be confusing especially when it comes to business ethics.

In a few decades Shanghai will be one of the best cities in the world. The biggest cons are water and air pollution, untreated water, and real estate prices. But relatively to similar global cities, real estate prices are where they should be.

As to the first part of the post, many foreign companies are leaving China because they can't secure their product designs. But there are so many new Chinese companies and startups it doesn't effect the economy negatively. China is finally starting to realize they have major copyright problems and many companies have sued and won to protect their products.
Well you did say "meat options", right after alcohol and bars, right? LOL...it seems I misinterpreted what you were referring to. That's a bit embarrassing. But no sarcasm. Forget Thailand...the working girls are extremely aggressive in Shanghai! In hotel bars, in the streets at night, at the nightspots. One actually grabbed my junk just walking outside of a nightspot. And if working girls are not your thing, it takes not much more effort for a middle aged westerner, expat or whatever, to find a young attractive female bed warmer for the evening.
Not that I would do that...
Ummm...back to the business discussion.

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