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Old 08-10-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Turku, Finland
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Finnish people have moved around quite a bit, so we have many new cities in the top 10 most populous.


City ... City charter ... (first documented written mention)

Helsinki 1550
Espoo 1972 (1431)
Tampere 1779 (early 1300s)
Vantaa 1974 (1351)
Oulu 1605 (1327)
Turku 1249 (1229)
Jyväskylä 1837 (1506)
Lahti 1905 (1445)
Kuopio 1653 / refound 1775
Pori 1558 / Originally at Ulvila, 1365 (late 1200's - early 1300's)
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Old 08-10-2017, 02:58 PM
 
Location: SE Estonia
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Estonia, five largest...hmm, not really cities, as the country is small and has itself just population of a city, but just towns,
first mentioned in written sources:

Tallinn 1154
Tartu 1030
Narva 1241
Pärnu 1251
Kohtla-Järve 1946
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Old 08-10-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Australia is very young of course, though the order in which the capital cities were founded gives a good indication of how european settlement occurred across the country.

Sydney - 1788 (convict setllement)
Hobart - 1803 (convict settlement)
Brisbane - 1825 (convict settlement)
Perth - 1829 (free settlement initially, took convicts after the trade ceased on the east coast)
Melbourne - 1835 (free settlement)
Adelaide - 1836 (free)
Darwin 1867 (free)
Canberra -1913 (a prison for federal politicans and public servants☺)

The actually 10 oldest cities are almost all part of the Sydney metro area these days, or smaller cities in Tasmania.
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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10 Largest Cities in the Netherlands:

Nijmegen 5
Groningen 1040
Utrecht 1122
Breda 1125
Tilburg 1191
Den Haag 1230
Eindhoven 1232
Amsterdam 1275
Rotterdam 1340
Almere 1975

1153
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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Here we go with some dates about Italy!
So, Messina is the oldest city in the modern meaning of settlement there? Interesting.

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Argentina

Santiago del Estero 1553
Mendoza 1561
San Juan 1562
Tucumán 1565
Córdoba 1573
Santa Fe 1573
Buenos Aires 1580 (it had a first foundation in 1536, but it was pillaged and destroyed then)
Salta 1582
Corrientes 1588
La Rioja 1591
Jujuy 1593
San Luis 1594
Rosario 1852 (foundation, it was inhabited since XVII century)
Mar del Plata 1874
La Plata 1882
Bariloche 1902

The first hispanic settlement in wich is nowadays Argentina was fort Sancti Spiritu established in 1527, near the actual little town of Puerto Gaboto

Fun fact: most of the oldest cities are also among the most populated. But there is one exception, a town founded in 1558 wich now has less than 3.000 people. Its name is Londres, wich actually is London in spanish, because at the time of its founding Felipe II was married to Mary Tudor.

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Old 08-12-2017, 11:31 PM
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Location: NYntarctica
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If Im correct, Mendoza has been settled a long time before that. I think many cities in Northwest Argentina had a stable population before the 1500s too, they only became cities later
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Old 08-15-2017, 03:37 PM
 
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Quite a few US cities had previously been small Native American cities, often located at the first rapid area on a river while going inland. St Louis was had been a Native city that had perhaps over 50,000 people. Also, most of the global population was overwhelming rural until the 1700s so even many Old World cities aren't that old. The difference is many of the USA's oldest buildings were torn down for "urban renewal" while in Eurasia there is more respect for old buildings and they are re-purposed rather than torn down.
Yes true.
But has been heavy damage from world war two. That's why you have those towns mostly made up of housing projects.

Many of old world towns grew up around train stations and such. The amount of towns and cities has grown much.
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Old 08-16-2017, 02:17 AM
 
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China
Just a few examples:

Beijing 1046 BC
Xi'an 16th century BC
Guangzhou 214 BC
Shanghai 751
Hong Kong 1841 (British possession)
Luoyang 11 century BC

For xi'an, you should add the fact that during the 1st century, Xi'an City was already 4 times the size of Rome. Xi'an had over 1 million people in as early as 8th century, when Paris and London were small towns.
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Old 08-16-2017, 04:14 AM
 
Location: near Turin (Italy)
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Luoyang 11 century BC

For xi'an, you should add the fact that during the 1st century, Xi'an City was already 4 times the size of Rome. Xi'an had over 1 million people in as early as 8th century, when Paris and London were small towns.
For having 4 times the inhabitants of Rome during 1st century AD Xi'an should have reached a population of 1 million of inhabitants* much earlier than the 8th century. Ancient Rome peaked a population of about one million (if not more) somewhere between the 1st and 2nd century AD (not all sources agree on the exact date nor the exact number of inhabitants), so Xi'an for being 4 times as large as Rome would have needed a population much larger than 1 million in the first century AD already. Is there any source with the demographic evolution of that city? I'm curious right now.

(*Then Rome population constantly decreased in the following centuries, and dramatically drop at few thousands with the fall of the Empire.*)
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Old 08-20-2017, 01:07 AM
 
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Only having ethnic heritage connections to the country of Romania. Just can’t believe Constanta is really the first oldest continuously inhabited city in all of Romania. Way before Brasov, Sibiu, Cluj Napoca, or Bucharest!? Original foundation in 600 BC. Austro-Hungarian empire arriving way later than Turkish Byzantine remnants. When rummaging through World Wide Web records of Google search engine, very difficult to find any articles with tons of paragraphs. Another strange mystery in this national identity.
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