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Old 07-20-2017, 12:32 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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True. Of course, you need an invitation, then fill out some forms, pay visa center fee and consulate fee, but you can just hire a visa service agency, send them your passport and a filled out form and they will do everything. You do not have to show up in person and you have to provide only basic information about your job, income, health insurance, etc.
Exactly. Easy-peasy. You also don't need an invitation, if you're going on a tourist visa. You just have to pre-pay your hotel stay. Fork over the $$, and you're good to go.
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:00 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I don't get why everyone is so afraid of Eastern Europe When was the last time a Polish or a Serbian person has done anything bad in the US? I bet the crime rates for Eastern Europeans in the US are minuscule, but people are falling for the same old stereotypes
Crime isn't the problem, it's the drivers.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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Oh no it is very hard. If you are Russian it is even more difficult than for Americans to visit Russia. Tons of paperwork. Many countries have instituted reciprocal rules for VISAS for Americans, so all of the people complaining about needing a VISA to enter Brazil or whatever, just remember that their citizens have to go through the same thing

If it was up to me, I would lift VISA restrictions on all countries in Eastern Europe as well as South America. Those countries pose no harm to the US
I do agree that the visa restrictions are somewhat excessive.
I'm not sure comparing the requirements for Brazilians and Russians to enter the US and vice versa is the right analogy.
Many Brazilians and Russians may want to overstay their visit and look for work. How many Americans are likely to want to do the same in Brazil or Russia?
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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I do agree that the visa restrictions are somewhat excessive.
I'm not sure comparing the requirements for Brazilians and Russians to enter the US and vice versa is the right analogy.
Many Brazilians and Russians may want to overstay their visit and look for work. How many Americans are likely to want to do the same in Brazil or Russia?
I wouldn't worry about it. Brazil and Russia both have low emigration rates. Russians might also be turned off by all of America's "Russia is the Devil" rhetoric
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:08 PM
 
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How is visiting the US hard?
For some countries, maybe. But not for the majority of tourists.
Actually getting a tourist visa to the US can be difficult. But many countries are exempt and can stay 30 days without a visa. Most countries require a face to face interview conducted in English and the rejection rate is very high to come to the US. They are required to show banks accounts proving they have enough money to stay and a return ticket is almost mandatory. Tourist visa application is like 20+ pages long. We sponsored a Chinese friend, who got rejected, and there were over 800 people at the embassy (according to the websites reservation system) just that day applying for various visas. I was shocked by the number of people there. There was a line probably 2 city blocks long circling around the building which was in a mall in Beijing. A very interesting experience.
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Old 07-21-2017, 12:09 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I do agree that the visa restrictions are somewhat excessive.
I'm not sure comparing the requirements for Brazilians and Russians to enter the US and vice versa is the right analogy.
Many Brazilians and Russians may want to overstay their visit and look for work. How many Americans are likely to want to do the same in Brazil or Russia?
There's a long history of US embassy staff being rude to visa applicants in Russia and Latin America. There was a blow-up about this in Russia in the 90's. People got fed up. Our country's representatives don't treat people decently, sometimes. So you're now seeing the consequences of that. It's too bad. The form Americans have to fill out now sounds like a translation of the one Russians and 3rd-Worlders have to fill out to come to the US.
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Old 07-21-2017, 12:12 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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How is visiting the US hard?
For some countries, maybe. But not for the majority of tourists.
Most people from the majority of countries in the world will never become tourists to the US, because they don't qualify. Even if someone sponsors their trip, they may get rejected. In the developing world, only those with middle-class jobs and money in the bank, or who work for a business that has good relations with the US embassy in their country, can get a visitor's visa, aside from the occasional education or youth cultural exchanges.
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Old 07-21-2017, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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Yeah well, the question is why would poor people come to the US for their vacation? Aren't they most probably rather looking for employment?

You HAVE to prove that you are willing to go home. You can do that by providing job and income information or any other documents that convince the authorities that you are likely to return home and not staying in the US for employment illegally. The less you have to lose elsewhere, the more they have to make sure that you go back. While this procedure may be unfair in the single cases, overall it proved to be quite efficient.

However, that still does not make the US a hard place to visit. How many of those
"people from the majority of countries in the world" do have the money for a flight to the US plus like 2 weeks of accomodation, food etc. ?
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:42 AM
 
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Crime isn't the problem, it's the drivers.
didn't get that...too many TIR drivers ot too many BAD drivers? Compare this to Asian drivers then... :P
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Fort Knox - they just wouldn't let me in to see the gold.
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