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Old 10-09-2017, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Yes perceptions about crime play a huge role in the low rankings of American cities on these lists. Most people abroad either aren't used to that level of crime or are used to lots of crime and are looking to get away.

One thing though is that I know lots of people who live in the US, some permanently some for part of the year. Out of all those people not a single one has been a victim of a serious crime in the US. So it is safe to say that it probably isn't much more dangerous for them than Canada is.

And that Americans who say that violent crime rates don't affect them might not be pulling our leg after all.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:35 PM
 
Location: PA/NJ
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Uhhh no. Any research will reveal that those cities have very low crime rates.

Not sure where you are going with this.

X-Files conspiracy theories?
Uhh no,like I said directly reported by the local news sites.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:37 PM
 
Location: PA/NJ
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Out of all those people not a single one has been a victim of a serious crime in the US.
So you'd rather them gamble with odds to find out if they'll actually become a victim or be smart and proactive and plan ahead for better places.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Uhh no,like I said directly reported by the local news sites.
Well, sure, local crime gets reported on in local news.

No one is saying these cities have no crime. Only that they have low crime.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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So you'd rather them gamble with odds to find out if they'll actually become a victim or be smart and proactive and plan ahead for better places.
I suppose that they may have a bigger risk of being victimized in the U.S.

But even though (let's say) a 1 in 1 million chance of being victimized is statistically more dangerous than a 1 in 5 million chance, in both cases the risk is still very low.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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Yes perceptions about crime play a huge role in the low rankings of American cities on these lists. Most people abroad either aren't used to that level of crime or are used to lots of crime and are looking to get away.

One thing though is that I know lots of people who live in the US, some permanently some for part of the year. Out of all those people not a single one has been a victim of a serious crime in the US. So it is safe to say that it probably isn't much more dangerous for them than Canada is.

And that Americans who say that violent crime rates don't affect them might not be pulling our leg after all.
A/J; to be fair to those living in or visiting the U.S. long term; it would be more than likely they are not doing either in any of those cities noted for higher crime rates than say Toronto or Montreal.. That would go a long way towards not knowing anyone whose been a victim.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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A/J; to be fair to those living in or visiting the U.S. long term; it would be more than likely they are not doing either in any of those cities noted for higher crime rates than say Toronto or Montreal.. That would go a long way towards not knowing anyone whose been a victim.
Well two of them are in the Chicago area including one in the city proper.

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Old 10-10-2017, 06:24 AM
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Location: Ontario
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A/J; to be fair to those living in or visiting the U.S. long term; it would be more than likely they are not doing either in any of those cities noted for higher crime rates than say Toronto or Montreal.. That would go a long way towards not knowing anyone whose been a victim.
True.

Though 4 of the 58 kiled in Las Vegas shooting were Canadians,
many Canadians injured too.
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Old 10-10-2017, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Finland
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True.

Though 4 of the 58 kiled in Las Vegas shooting were Canadians,
many Canadians injured too.
Multiply by two and you get all the murders in Finland for the past year. Actually it's less. I think we had like 85 murders last year.

And according to Washington Post we have a lot of guns.
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Like most other Canadians I've been to the U.S. dozens of times, and this is true of most people I know. I suppose that at any given time there are a number of people in my entourage in the U.S. (My wife's three BFFs were actually in NYC over the weekend - she could not go due to work commitments.)


Anyway, my point is that I can't honestly recall anyone I know being a victim of a violent crime while in the U.S.


So as I said before, when Americans say most people can fairly easily avoid violent crime down there, they're not just making this up. If clueless tourists can generally avoid it, people who actually live there, who know the hoods and know the cues, are likely even better at it.


(It's admittedly horrible for those Americans who can't avoid violent crime, but that's a whole other topic.)
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