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Old 09-06-2017, 11:27 PM
 
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I don't mean to call you out specifically but this is a very US-centric point of view.

There is a reason US cities never make these lists. The "desirable" cities in the US really aren't so desirable in a global context. Huge divide between rich and poor. San Diego's climate isn't all that unique, and beautiful weather and scenery does not pay the bills. The major cities in the US just aren't very livable to the majority of the people.
According to your metrics, there are cities that do not deserve to be in that list and are not Americans...
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:31 PM
 
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France and Spain are afflicted with a number of issues that stymy the QOL. Unemployment, for example.


...it's interesting that an astute observation of many Spanish cities will make you realize that under certain perspective their citizen actually have a better QOL that some of these cities in the top spots....for example I can easily see more poverty and misery in Vancouver than in Valencia....
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Old 09-07-2017, 01:14 AM
 
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Interesting quite few of them have high suicide rates...go figure LOL
None of these countries has high suicide rates. Go figure.
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:22 AM
 
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None of these countries has high suicide rates. Go figure.
Time to look at some stats....

......Scandinavian countries, some of the supposedly "happiest" countries in the world, are among the highest in Europe....a well known facts for decades...

Almost all in this group of mentioned "happy" countries are in the double digits (Finland reaches almost 15, Greece is at 3.2 in comparison)..I guess they are so happy that they want to kill themselves...go figure again

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Old 09-07-2017, 02:35 AM
 
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Time to look at some stats....

......Scandinavian countries, some of the supposedly "happiest" countries in the world, are among the highest in Europe....a well known facts for decades...

Almost all in this group of mentioned "happy" countries are in the double digits (Finland reaches almost 15, Greece is at 3.2 in comparison)...go figure again
They are not amongst the highest in Europe. Eastern Europe has the highest suicide rates in Europe. Only Finland is a bit higher but it's not even within top 30 of the most suicidal countries. America is just a bit lower, for example.
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:38 AM
 
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They are not amongst the highest in Europe. Eastern Europe has the highest suicide rates in Europe. Only Finland is a bit higher but it's not even within top 30 of the most suicidal countries. America is just a bit lower, for example.

I meant advanced Europe, EU....and no Eastern European country is on that silly list of "happy countries"....for countries that should be considered "happy" double digit is very high among advanced nations....
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:01 AM
 
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Food for thought......

"Dark lands: the grim truth behind the 'Scandinavian miracle'"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-norway-sweden

TIME

"Why the Happiest States Have the Highest Suicide Rates"

Why the Happiest States Have the Highest Suicide Rates | TIME.com

"Happiest Places Post Highest Suicide Rates"

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/...suicide-rates/


Finally

"The Almost Nearly Perfect People: Behind the Myth of the Scandinavian Utopia"

Michael Booth

https://www.amazon.com/Almost-Nearly...=Michael+Booth


"Those sky-high happiness surveys, it turns out, are mostly bunk. Asking people “Are you happy?” means different things in different cultures. In Japan, for instance, answering “Yes” seems like boasting, Booth points out. Whereas in Denmark, it’s considered “shameful to be unhappy,” newspaper editor Anne Knudsen says in the book.

Moreover, there is a group of people that believes the Danes are lying when they say they’re the happiest people on the planet. This group is known as “Danes.”

“Over the years I have asked many Danes about these happiness surveys — whether they really believe that they are the global happiness champions — and I have yet to meet a single one of them who seriously believes it’s true,” Booth writes. “They tend to approach the subject of their much-vaunted happiness like the victims of a practical joke waiting to discover who the perpetrator is.”"

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Old 09-07-2017, 03:32 AM
 
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I meant advanced Europe, EU....and no Eastern European country is on that silly list of "happy countries"....for countries that should be considered "happy" double digit is very high among advanced nations....
That's even more laughable as all advanced European countries have their suicide rates on the same level. Norway, Germany, and Denmark are actually on the lower side. In fact, most developed countries have similar suicide rates, aka double digits, save for a few outliers, such as Korea, Belgium and Japan, who are on sky rocket level (15+ or even close to 25, in Korea's case). Canada, America, Australia, France all have them on double digits.

The only countries in Europe with low suicide rates are Southern European ones, and they are barely more advanced than Eastern/Central Europe nowadays. Greece and Portugal for example are totally below the likes of Estonia and the Czech Republic on nearly every metric possible.

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Old 09-07-2017, 03:42 AM
 
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That's even more laughable as all advanced European countries have their suicide rates on the same level. Norway, Germany, and Denmark are actually on the lower side. In fact, all developed countries have similar suicide rates, aka double digits, save for a few outliers, such as Korea and Japan, who are on sky rocket level (20+ or close to that). Canada, America, Australia, France all have them on double digits.

The only countries in Europe with low suicide rates are Southern European ones, and they are barely more advanced than Eastern/Central Europe nowadays. Greece and Portugal for example are totally below the likes of Estonia and the Czech Republic on nearly every metric possible.

Again, look at stats...Scandinavian among the highest and quite a lot of EU countries below double digit.

Southern EU countries "barely more advanced than Eastern European ones?? talking about laughing ahahahah!!!....Do yourself a favor and travel more my friend....maybe you can start reading some of the links I posted...

These happiness surveys are indeed bunk....highly debatable, or worse, total BS.

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Old 09-07-2017, 03:51 AM
 
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Again, look at stats...Scandinavian among the highest and quite a lot of EU countries below double digit.

Southern EU countries "barely more advanced than Eastern European ones?? talking about laughing ahahahah!!!....Do yourself a favor and travel more my friend....maybe you can start reading some of the links I posted...

These Happiness surveys are indeed bunk....total BS.
I've done a fair bit of traveling and I could subscribe to Grey's opinion that some southern countries are actually behind the likes of Estonia and Czechia. The south is generally not known for 'advancement'.
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