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View Poll Results: What city do you consider to be the capital of developing countries?
Shangai (China) 20 64.52%
São Paulo (Brazil) 1 3.23%
Jakarta (Indonesia) 1 3.23%
Dheli (India) 1 3.23%
Mexico City (Mexico) 4 12.90%
Other (comment) 4 12.90%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-21-2017, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Chinese cities have a bigger political importance, whereas the mentioned Latin American cities lack political significance but have much more global feels to them. Aside from Cuzco and MX most LA cities lack history, especially compared to China. Bangkok should be considered too imo
But how are any of the cities you mentioned powerhouses? Sure they do have regional significance, but outside of that, their sphere of influence diminishes considerably. A lot of Chinese cities, despite their impressive size, are not well known internationally. Take Chongqing for example, an important economic centre within China, but largely unknown outside of it.
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Old 08-21-2017, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Cannes
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For me:
Shanghai
Sao Paulo
Mexico City
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:22 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Dividing countries amongst developed, developing and underdeveloped is problematic.

Countries like Brazil and Mexico are true developing countries in the western sense - they struggle to defeat their own weaknesses to reach a standard of living compared to Europe and the Anglosphere. But China is a completely different thing. They have a mix of free-market capitalism with socialism, and an authoritarian and nationalist government. It's an artificial development, but, for their purpose, they are already successful.

India is more like Latin America in this sense, but in many ways their poverty is due to cultural issues. Much of the indian society (though not all, obviously) is like Bhutan: they refuse to reach material welfare; instead, they are busier with spiritual issues. I don't know much about Indonesia, but it seems to be similar to India in some aspects and to Latin America in others.
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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Assuming China is a so called developing country, then the capital of the developing world in this made up scenario would be Beijing or Shanghai...China is the only non-Western country that has significant dealings with all parts of the developing world (Latin America and Caribbean, Africa and Asia).
If China is not on the list, then there is no capital. Each developing region deals with their former colonial conquerors and China more than they deal with other developing regions.
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Old 08-22-2017, 01:34 AM
 
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Jakarta
Mexico City
Shanghai
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Old 08-22-2017, 08:36 AM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Assuming China is a so called developing country, then the capital of the developing world in this made up scenario would be Beijing or Shanghai...China is the only non-Western country that has significant dealings with all parts of the developing world (Latin America and Caribbean, Africa and Asia).
If China is not on the list, then there is no capital. Each developing region deals with their former colonial conquerors and China more than they deal with other developing regions.
I have to apologise if it sounds like a boosterism, but after China, Brazil has this role.
Brazil is very influent in both Latin America and Africa; in Asia, less so, but it's still part of the BRICS, a political and economic forum which also accounts with Russia, India and China (plus South Africa).

On the other hand, Portugal is not even in the top 20 countries for both exports and imports and the brazilian culture enters much more in Portugal than the other way around. In Europe, German and the Netherlands are the most important partners of Brazil in terms of commerce.
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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"Developing" (if we are classifying them):

Countries among the World's Top 25 in GDP
2. China (11.2B) (Beijing)
7. India (2.3B) (New Delhi)
9. Brazil (1.8B) (Brasilia)
12. Russia (1.3B) (Moscow)
15. Mexico (1.05 B) (Mexico City)
16. Indonesia (932 M) (Jakarta)
17. Turkey (857 M) (Ankara)
20. Saudi Arabia (639 M) (Riyadh)
21. Argentina (545 M) (Buenos Aires)

Countries among the World's Top 25 in PPP
1. China (23.2 B)
3. India (9.5 B)
6. Russia (3.9 B)
7. Indonesia (3.3 B)
8. Brazil (3.2 B)
11. Mexico (2.4 B)
13. Turkey (2.1 B)
15. Saudi Arabia (1.8 B)
18. Iran (1.5 B)
20. Thailand (1.2 B)
21. Egypt (1.2 B)
23. Nigeria (1.1 B)
25. Pakistan (1.1 B)

I'm having a hard time finding reliable figures for city GDPs, so perhaps someone else can find that. I don't know if one is particularly far ahead of the others, and we know what the usual suspects are mostly, though.

Here are numbers of some of these cities by foreign consulates present:
1. Beijing 161 (only behind DC and Brussels)
2. Moscow 146
3. Cairo 134 (These 3 rank in the top 10)
4. New Delhi 131
5. Pretoria 120
6. Brasilia 106
7. Havana and Riyadh (Tied with 96)

Beijing's historical influence is worth noting. It has 2 of what are regularly considered Top 10 man made structures (Forbidden City/Great Wall), all time, and I would venture it's influence has been felt all over Asia and beyond.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:24 PM
 
Location: London, United Kingdom
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New York.
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Old 08-22-2017, 04:18 PM
 
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New York.
It sounds as if you are saying one of two things:
Either, the US is a developing country
-or- NYC has the most direct actions and influence over developing nations than any other city on Earth.
I'm assuming the latter, but just checkingZ
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Old 08-22-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: London, United Kingdom
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Option 3:

It was in jest.

Much like the world as a whole, the developing world does not have a capital. You can never pinpoint any of those cities and say their culture and social influence has transcended to every developing country in the world or even a small handful of developing countries for that matter. Much like the discussion for the capital of the world thread, there isn't an answer. Remember there are 7.4 billion people in this world, I'll write it numerically 7,400,000,000 people on Earth and growing. Yet the largest city is Tokyo with its expanded Kanto Region with just shy of 43 million people. By all means it is the world's only Supercity (a city with an encompassing metropolis exceeding 40 million people). Yet despite its gargantuan size and its total influence, Tokyo only has 43,000,000 people of the world's total 7,400,000,000 people. It fails to shape so much of the world's culture and history and the same goes for any other city on Earth.

That's 7,357,000,000 people in the world that don't need Tokyo for anything on a day-to-day life. There is no one city as the world capital and certainly no one city as the developing world's capital.

I guess what I am saying is that I enjoy reading people's posts, seeing them use their intelligence to craft arguments for what they believe in. It's a good thing because it is nice to see people putting their brains to a good use. That's a nice read but in the end it is a fruitless endeavor, no one city represents the developing world as a whole, let alone the entire world as a whole IMO.
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