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Old 11-03-2017, 01:44 AM
 
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Ok for the third time, Turkey recognizes both Palestine and Israel. And most of North America, Western Europe and Australia donít recognize Palestine but only recognize Israel.Using your own words then, can you deny that religion plays a role in deciding whether a country accepts Palestine or not?
North America, Western Europe and Australia are hardly the only regions where Christianity is practiced. What about Russia, Ukraine, Brazil, Argentina, Ethiopia, Phillipines, South Africa... When adding them up they account for several hundred million.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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North America, Western Europe and Australia are hardly the only regions where Christianity is practiced. What about Russia, Ukraine, Brazil, Argentina, Ethiopia, Phillipines, South Africa... When adding them up they account for several hundred million.
That wasnít my question though. My question was do you think North America, Western Europe and Australia would recognize Palestine if Palestine was Christian?
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:51 AM
 
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That wasnít my question though. My question was do you think North America, Western Europe and Australia would recognize Palestine if Palestine was Christian?
I don't think it is about religion. It is about the blind and unconditioned support of Israel of the US. W Europe, Canada and Australia and Japan are just doing whatever the US is doing.
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Old 11-03-2017, 04:30 AM
 
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None of them is member of the UNO.
Besides while Kosovo proclaimed its independence from Serbia in 2008, even if not widely recognized, it is still officially an independent state, even if some Serbian majority zones have a degree of autonomy like North Mitrovica. It's not the case for the Palestinian Territories as far as I know, who are only autonomous with different status if they are zone 1 (full autonomy, Gaza and Ramallah for instance), and zones 2 and 3 (a modicum of Israeli government jointly with the Palestinian one).
As a footnote, the UN has 193 full-fledged members. Kosovo, the ROC and the Vatican/Holy See, while independent states, are not members of the UN.
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Old 11-03-2017, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Positions on the status of Western Sahara:
Black: Western Sahara
Red: Supports Morocco's territorial claim (including support for autonomy under Moroccan sovereignty); Relations with the SADR terminated and/or recognition withdrawn (if no other position expressed)
Green: Maintains diplomatic relations with or recognizes the Sahrawi Republic
Aqua: Recognizes the self-determination of the Sahrawi people, but does not recognize the SADR nor maintain diplomatic relations with it (if no other position expressed)
Grey: Has not expressed any position or has expressed conflicting opinions
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Old 11-03-2017, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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But then there is also this map


maps came from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...Western_Sahara
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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Positions on the status of Western Sahara:
Black: Western Sahara
Red: Supports Morocco's territorial claim (including support for autonomy under Moroccan sovereignty); Relations with the SADR terminated and/or recognition withdrawn (if no other position expressed)
Green: Maintains diplomatic relations with or recognizes the Sahrawi Republic
Aqua: Recognizes the self-determination of the Sahrawi people, but does not recognize the SADR nor maintain diplomatic relations with it (if no other position expressed)
Grey: Has not expressed any position or has expressed conflicting opinions
Major powers havenít recognized western sahara
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Diplomatic relations between world states and Taiwan
Blue: Republic of China (ROC, Taiwan)
Orange: People's Republic of China (PRC, China)
Light Orange: Countries recognizing PRC only
Light Blue: Countries recognizing ROC only
Tan: Countries recognizing PRC with informal ROC relations of Consulate nature

Similar to western Sahara, major powers are neutral to the dispute.
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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That wasnít my question though. My question was do you think North America, Western Europe and Australia would recognize Palestine if Palestine was Christian?
Christianity doesn't play a role (if any, very minuscule) in the foreign policy of Western countries, separation of state and church, contrary to Islam in Islamic countries, where such definition would be blasphemy lol.
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Old 11-03-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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Christianity doesn't play a role (if any, very minuscule) in the foreign policy of Western countries, separation of state and church, contrary to Islam in Islamic countries, where such definition would be blasphemy lol.
I very much doubt that. Let me repeat the question I asked milkyway resident earlier. Would North America, Western Europe and Australia recognize Palestine if it was a Christian majority country? Oh also Turkey is a secular country in its constitution similar to France unlike US where the president swears on bible. Even though Turkey’s secularity is under attack by Islamists who have been supported by the west for years.

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