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Old 11-06-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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https://theintercept.com/2017/11/05/...on-enabled-it/

intresting take of what happened, pretty different from the other ones.
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Old 11-06-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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The only thing I am interested now in ( under the circumstances) is how it's going to affect the deal (in the making) between Putin and Saudi Arabia to curb oil production...
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:35 AM
 
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With luck we will see Saudi Arabia in a civil war.
I certainly hope a civil war in Saudi Arabia and the collapse of this country eventually.

Iran is 10 times more tolerant, peaceful and moderate than Saudi Arabia, yet the US and the west can't stop antagonizing it.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:04 AM
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I certainly hope a civil war in Saudi Arabia and the collapse of this country eventually.

Iran is 10 times more tolerant, peaceful and moderate than Saudi Arabia, yet the US and the west can't stop antagonizing it.
Collapse of Saudi Arabia, what could go wrong? Reckless thinking, which characterizes the Trump administration and it's supporters.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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Collapse of Saudi Arabia, what could go wrong? Reckless thinking, which characterizes the Trump administration and it's supporters.
what could go wrong? Less sponsoring of terrorism.

It is not like the Middle East is quiet and peaceful now. In fact, the entire region should be redivided. Saudi Arabia is a truly rogue country yet nobody is calling it so.

Trump loves Saudi Arabia, just like all previous US presidents.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:56 AM
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what could go wrong? Less sponsoring of terrorism.

It is not like the Middle East is quiet and peaceful now. In fact, the entire region should be redivided. Saudi Arabia is a truly rogue country yet nobody is calling it so.

Trump loves Saudi Arabia, just like all previous US presidents.
Like the removal of Hussein, yeah that helped. "Redivided" you realize that would surely mean full-scale world war. It isn't a video game dude. And Trump is embracing upheaval, the reckless putz.
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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Like the removal of Hussein, yeah that helped. "Redivided" you realize that would surely mean full-scale world war. It isn't a video game dude. And Trump is embracing upheaval, the reckless putz.
Trump doesn't embrace wars any more than the alternative Hilary Clinton. Actually if Obama had followed every piece of advice Clinton gave, the world would have had a hell lot of more wars.

Full-scale world war? Humm, I guess you are assuming the US will HAVE to intervene. If the M.E. countries have wars, how does it concern the US an other countries? They don't have to make it a proxy war if they want to, so even that happens, it is these countries who choose to have a full scale world war.

The Middle East needs new country borders. SO does much of Africa. And it will happen sooner or later.
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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He is correct. You need to work on your comprehension, situational awareness and glaring ignorance.
Perhaps all depends on journalism. News in some countries might be presented/commented different than in others...
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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The liberal crown prince of Saudi Arabia assassinates a conservative relative. How is this a negative thing?
Stalin was a liberal also.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:42 PM
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Trump doesn't embrace wars any more than the alternative Hilary Clinton. Actually if Obama had followed every piece of advice Clinton gave, the world would have had a hell lot of more wars.

Full-scale world war? Humm, I guess you are assuming the US will HAVE to intervene. If the M.E. countries have wars, how does it concern the US an other countries? They don't have to make it a proxy war if they want to, so even that happens, it is these countries who choose to have a full scale world war.

The Middle East needs new country borders. SO does much of Africa. And it will happen sooner or later.
Like you know the advice Clinton gave Obama. I think your second paragraph is completely nave, every ME country will hope to get US, EU, or Russia backing. Staying out of that is not at all possible in the 21st century.
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