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View Poll Results: Which of the following Middle Income/Middle sized countries would you consider living in?
Indonesia 5 19.23%
Ukraine 8 30.77%
Egypt 1 3.85%
Colombia 9 34.62%
South Africa 3 11.54%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-09-2017, 10:15 PM
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The media sensationalized the Crimean conflict and made it something that it was not. It was a fault of the media for not accurately reporting the reality of the situation. I dont entirely support the way it was done, but the media made it sound like it was Darfur or Srebrenica ffs


Colombia has improved a lot, and it keeps improving. I think the rate should decline even more with the demilitarization of FARC, as troublesome as the whole process is. The rate is still very ugly (24 per 100k), but a million times better than before. Hate to be cliche, but a lot of it is gang related, so if you're visiting, this is the sort of violence that won't affect you. As opposed to terrorist violence, which mostly targets places with a lot of tourists
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:52 PM
 
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One thing I like about these countries, is that all have plenty of cities to choose from besides their capitals or largest cities. Indonesia has 10 cities over a million, Colombia 6, S. Africa & Ukraine 5 and Egypt 2. For example here are the 5th, 10th & 15th largest cities of each country...

South Africa

5th Pretoria - 2.9 million


Source: ADEK


10th Bloemfontein - 750k


Source: Property24


With the varying urban conglomerations of South Africa, it's hard to separate cities. Many townships merge with others such as Soweto-Johannesburg-Tembisa-Benoni-Springs-Vereeniging etc. Therefore for me the 12th independent city is Newcastle, despite it officially being 15th.

12th/15th Newcastle - 365k


Source: Wikipedia




Colombia

5th Cartagena - 1 million


Skyline of Cartagena / Colombia
by anjči, Flickr

10th Santa Marta - 480k


Rodadero Santa Marta by Nehemias Gomez Preciado, on Flickr

15th Pasto - 375k


Source: Gabriel S. Troya
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:56 PM
 
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Indonesia

5th Semarang - 1.5 million


Simpang Lima by Everyone Sinks Starco, on Flickr

10th Padang - 1 million



15th Jambi City - 550k


Jambi city from top by SESDE SEHARJA, on Flickr


Ukraine

5th Donetsk - 1 million


Kalmius-9-images-IMG_3148-IMG_3156-CS6L by Souls_Eater, on Flickr

Although Mariupol is Ukraine's 10th biggest city, it's a real dump! So is Ukraine's 9th city, Mykolaiv and this has really backfired because Ukraine's 8th city looks quite bad also!
What's up with Eastern Ukraine?!? I've decided to showcase Ukraine's beautiful 7th city instead...

7th Lviv - 730k


Lviv Panorama by Alan Agius, on Flickr

15th Symferopil - 330k


Karpex hosp. Balcony view of city,Simferopol,Ukraine by Davendran Kanesen, on Flickr


Egypt

Ok this is also backfiring a little bit, Egypt's 5th city, Al Mahallah al Kubra, looks like a bit of a dump too! I'll show Egypt's 6th city Luxor instead...

6th Luxor - 500k


Source: Egyptsuntours.com


10th Faiyum - 350k


Source: Getty Images


Egypt's 15th city is Qena but it's quite ugly so instead here's Egypt's 14th city, Aswan...

14th Aswan - 300k


Source: Getty Images


Edit..
To be fair I think South Africa and Colombia trump the other countries when it comes to cities....when looking at images, a lot of Indonesian cities disappoint, many don't even look like they have the population they do. Many Eastern Ukrainian cities look awful and so do many Egyptian ones, which is why I had to change the positions from 5th, 10th & 15th, which was what I initially set out to do, and instead look for other cities that had some saving grace. Something I didn't have to do with the S.African or Colombian cities as almost all cities no matter what their ranking, had something decent to show.

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Old 11-10-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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South Africa has the best climate in the world...
really? It looks too dry on many parts.
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Old 11-11-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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When it comes to higher education these countries combined hold 40 of the top 1000 ranked universities in the world.

The Top performing university of all the countries is:

1. University of Capetown

Followed by:

2. National University of Colombia

3. Los Andes University, Bogota

The above are top 300 world ranked universities.

In total Colombia has 10 top 1000 universities, Indonesia & South Africa 9, Ukraine 6 and Egypt 5.

https://www.topuniversities.com/
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Old 11-11-2017, 06:26 PM
 
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According to the World Health Organisation these are the global rankings of health systems for each country (ranking out of 191 countries)...

#22. Colombia
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#64. Egypt
#79. Ukraine
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#92. Indonesia
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#175. South Africa

WHO | World Health Statistics
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:46 PM
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By life expectancy

#73. Colombia
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#104. Ukraine
#107. Egyot
#120. Indonesia
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#151. South Africa (151st, jesus christ)


Democracy Index (US is 21st)

#39. South Africa
#48. Indonesia
#58. Colombia
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#86. Ukraine
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#133. Egypt

Moral Freedom Index (Measuring how socially libertarian a country is)

#11. Colombia
#28. South Africa
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#76. Ukraine
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#146. Indonesia
#153. Egypt
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Old Yesterday, 02:52 PM
 
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AIDS is crushing SA in those health rankings
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Old Today, 04:15 AM
 
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Ukraine and Egypt are not safe right now. There is too much political instability.
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Old Today, 05:28 AM
 
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Ukraine and Egypt are not safe right now. There is too much political instability.
Meh, you can still carve out yourself a decent life in Kiev or Alexandria. Unless you're gay that is and want to enjoy the privileges of more liberal countries.
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