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View Poll Results: Which of the following Middle Income/Middle sized countries would you consider living in?
Indonesia 9 15.00%
Ukraine 15 25.00%
Egypt 3 5.00%
Colombia 22 36.67%
South Africa 11 18.33%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-05-2017, 02:42 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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why does title mention moddle class, but i mostly see poor countries as options?

did he mean where can he play rich man in a poorer country on middle class western budget?
You need to travel more mate. Poverty exists to varying levels just as it does in the US. There are 193 countries in the world, these are middle income to above average income countries with a consolidated middle class despite social issues which may challenge that more than in the developed world.

Focus more on your reading comprehension in future.
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Basically same rates as Oakland in all bar one mejor city (Cali). Would you be so opposed to living in Oakland for a while? Not to mention rates across the country keep dropping fast year on year.

Same can't be said about the States where rates are rising year on year.
Yeah Iím not living in Oakland or south central LA. If you look at San Jose population growth vs Oakland youíll see most people have made the same decision. Every country has its problem areas. I have no intention to moving to any of them.
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:54 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Yeah Iím not living in Oakland or south central LA. If you look at San Jose population growth vs Oakland youíll see most people have made the same decision. Every country has its problem areas. I have no intention to moving to any of them.
Plenty of people live in Oakland and there's almost always a 1.3%+ growth year on year, many people are moving out due to rent rises. Especially African American families.

In any case your argument proves my point. Do the problems in Oakland affect you in San Jose despite proximity? My guess is no. Now take Colombia that's nearly 3 x the size of California and whose largest city has more people in its urban core than in the entire Bay Area from Santa Rosa to Gilroy. Boyaca state for example has a homicide rate on par with San Jose and its capital Tunja less even. Are the problems in Cali going to affect you 400 miles away? No they won't.
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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why does title mention moddle class, but i mostly see poor countries as options?

did he mean where can he play rich man in a poorer country on middle class western budget?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...PP)_per_capita

Aside from maybe Ukraine all the countries he mentions are indeed the "middle class" of the world, out of 187 countries mentioned by the IMF Colombia is 85th, SA is 89th, Egypt is 91st, and Indonesia is 97th, so they are pretty in the middle by world standards. If you think they are poor countries, wait until you see Liberia, Niger, or the Congo
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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Plenty of people live in Oakland and there's almost always a 1.3%+ growth year on year, many people are moving out due to rent rises. Especially African American families.

In any case your argument proves my point. Do the problems in Oakland affect you in San Jose despite proximity? My guess is no. Now take Colombia that's nearly 3 x the size of California and whose largest city has more people in its urban core than in the entire Bay Area from Santa Rosa to Gilroy. Boyaca state for example has a homicide rate on par with San Jose and its capital Tunja less even. Are the problems in Cali going to affect you 400 miles away? No they won't.
Americans always underrate the crime happening on our own home soil especially when we compare ourselves with different countries. St Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Cleveland, Memphis, all of these cities have murder rates much higher than many places in Colombia. Avoiding Bogota because you think someone wants to kidnap you for the $500 you have in your bank account, but then going to Detroit to catch a Lions game, that's ridiculous
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...PP)_per_capita

Aside from maybe Ukraine all the countries he mentions are indeed the "middle class" of the world, out of 187 countries mentioned by the IMF Colombia is 85th, SA is 89th, Egypt is 91st, and Indonesia is 97th, so they are pretty in the middle by world standards. If you think they are poor countries, wait until you see Liberia, Niger, or the Congo
Thatís because the world standards are as low as it could be. All countries under 35th arenít well off. Or at least are only rich in parts. Even within the top percentiles there are some incredibly ****ed up failed states.

Besides PPP is such a load of bull.
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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Thatís because the world standards are as low as it could be. All countries under 35th arenít well off. Or at least are only rich in parts. Even within the top percentiles there are some incredibly ****ed up failed states.

Besides PPP is such a load of bull.
PPP is not bull, $10000 is gonna take you a lot farther in India or China than it will in the United States. You need to take PPP when talking about living conditions in different countries
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Plenty of people live in Oakland and there's almost always a 1.3%+ growth year on year, many people are moving out due to rent rises. Especially African American families.

In any case your argument proves my point. Do the problems in Oakland affect you in San Jose despite proximity? My guess is no. Now take Colombia that's nearly 3 x the size of California and whose largest city has more people in its urban core than in the entire Bay Area from Santa Rosa to Gilroy. Boyaca state for example has a homicide rate on par with San Jose and its capital Tunja less even. Are the problems in Cali going to affect you 400 miles away? No they won't.

Ahh, but with no Uber, how will I get away from the bad areas?

Ok, would it be better if I said I was afraid of all the attractive Colombian women would make my wife insanely jealous...and we all know we need a happy wife for a happy life?
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:37 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Ahh, but with no Uber, how will I get away from the bad areas?

Ok, would it be better if I said I was afraid of all the attractive Colombian women would make my wife insanely jealous...and we all know we need a happy wife for a happy life?
1. Uber is highly used in Colombia 2.What Uber travels 400 miles? 3. Couldn't give a toss about your wife or home life mate, just refuting your irrational statements based on a 20-30 year old reality.
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Old 12-18-2017, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Indonesia-- Great economic future, but may have troublesome growing pains.
Ukraine -- I love it, I could live there, but for the climate.
Egypt -- Sucks big time in every respect
Colomb ia -- Lovely, proud country. I could live there, too.
South Africa -- A lot of really serious issues are bubbling under the lid.
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