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Old Yesterday, 09:50 AM
 
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I doubt is about creating a long lasting peaceful relationship. Is more about what each side has to gain from each other. When hell break loose, war will come. East and West will become enemy.
In most cases, there is no long lasting peaceful relationship. For the US, if you want that, you have to listen to it and take it as your boss - even the UK sometimes can't tolerate that.

Between China and the US, apparently it is all based on mutual interest. Right now, China is the only country that may potentially challenge US hegemony in the world, and we all know the US will do everything to prevent it from happening. It is not even a secret. It is explicitly written a long time ago. SO whatever issues the US picks on China, South China Sea, Tibet, "human rights", Taiwan, it is never about the issue itself, or the people that are involved. It is always about weakening China. The US can't even tolerate China dominating East Asia (yet it considers the Americas its backyard).

Not sure about the East-West thing. Europe doesn't follow the US at each step. The fact the UK and other countries joined the Asia Infrastructure bank despite strong warnings from the US proves that. If the US stops being as powerful vis-a-vis China, Europe may have more disagreement with it in the future. So I don't think the West is a unified entity. Each country has different priority, and not everyone has containing China on the top of the agenda.
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Old Today, 05:55 PM
 
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Tesla is a shredder of other's people capital (so far) not to mention the borderline fraudulent accounting methods used, SpaceX is a recycler of Russian rocket engines, the others are not really functioning companies yet and, more importantly, did not invent anything.

I will be curious to see how Musk fantasies will perform in a normalized interest rate regime.
SpaceX's new engines are their own designs, and he was very open about starting with Russian rocket designs. In fact, he went to Russia and tried to buy Russian rockets, but he couldn't get them here, so he copied them. Their new engines and rockets are all developed and designed by SpaceX.

Musk is a respectable guy and has really pressed the rocket industry, electric car industry, and the solar panel industry. He also revolutionized online banking with his creation of PayPal. Perhaps he hasn't invented anything new, but he has made great improvements in all of those industries and has moved all of them into the mainstream.

The funny thing is that Tesla, the man, not the company, also lived off other peoples money. He himself never made much money.
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Old Today, 06:45 PM
 
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SpaceX's new engines are their own designs, and he was very open about starting with Russian rocket designs. In fact, he went to Russia and tried to buy Russian rockets, but he couldn't get them here, so he copied them. Their new engines and rockets are all developed and designed by SpaceX.

Musk is a respectable guy and has really pressed the rocket industry, electric car industry, and the solar panel industry. He also revolutionized online banking with his creation of PayPal. Perhaps he hasn't invented anything new, but he has made great improvements in all of those industries and has moved all of them into the mainstream.

The funny thing is that Tesla, the man, not the company, also lived off other peoples money. He himself never made much money.

As far as I know, Musk was not even the main thinker behind PayPal.

Tesla did not revolutionize anything, simply it took advantage the typical short-sightedness of big corporation.....the company built sexy and fast looking electric cars (albeit of bad quality) where the established players built hideous looking ones...until now....and these players can rely on an engineering brain trust and resources that Tesla can only dream of...

Musk is definitely a dreamer and an excellent self-promoter (none of his ideas are original)...comparing him to Nikola Tesla is, in my opinion, ludicrous.
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