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Old 12-08-2017, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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...and yet NY where you info says you are living?...is colder than where I live.
Vancouver's climate is pretty horrible, no offense. Even Seattle's climate is awful, you have to go down to Portland on the West Coast to have warm summers
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Like I said it's getting 'de mode'. To use just one random example, during my time there around 2009-2011 traffic jams were already a nightmare and today from what I've heard UAE's population has doubled in just ~5 years...imagine the kind of traffic problems they have now.
+ You have to blame your own compatriots for all the dubai hype...I mean even Piers Morgan has made documentary about it and all the British celebs have properties there.

And what's your issue with Israel? It's LGBT friendly from what I can tell, they have among the biggest lgbt prides not just in the region but in the world.
Dubai hype? look the story is real enough and I for one would NOT want to go anywhere near a country where this can even slightly conceivably happen! Its not just that though is it? Living in Dubai means you forego a LOT of freedoms that countries in the West give you and freedom to live the way you want to live is THE first and foremost importance to any living quality. As for my 'issue' with Israel perhaps you should watch the documentary 'The Ultra Zionists' by Louis Theroux and then get back to me because living in a semi war zone does not make somewhere even remotely 'ideal' to live in.
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Old 12-08-2017, 02:06 PM
 
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...and yet NY where you info says you are living?...is colder than where I live.

New York is sunnier than Vancouver and Southern western BC is a fraction of Canada.
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Old 12-08-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Vancouver's climate is pretty horrible, no offense. Even Seattle's climate is awful, you have to go down to Portland on the West Coast to have warm summers
Vancouver summers are very pleasant and usually no humidity. Remember those temps you see on reports are taken at YVR right on the water. Downtown and just a few minutes inland it can be as much as 8C warmer.

I don't think having flowers starting to bloom in late Ferbruary or early March is indicative of a horrible climate.
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Old 12-08-2017, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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New York is sunnier than Vancouver and Southern western BC is a fraction of Canada.
NYC has humid summers...no thanks. SW BC is still Canada and a very desirable part of Canada.
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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NYC has humid summers...no thanks. SW BC is still Canada and a very desirable part of Canada.
The only desirable in my book....


I would say that overall, yearly, NYC has better weather than Vancouver or Seattle...
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Both coasts
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Different countries for different things

Overall I'd say Australia is good but it is quite pricey and yes it is isolated, it takes forever to go anywhere else. But it is stable, safe and overall favorable weather. More favorable work benefits & conditions than say the US although way less bang for the buck in too many other dimensions of living standards.

There is an advantage with the UK's location, one of my favorite places in the world is London, they really do many things very well in the UK, but to think from a living perspective, too costly, too congested (for the most part) and a little too dreary life conditions.
Canada. Yes more civilized than the US, similar life options as Australia, but more limiting compared to the US in the areas mentioned below.

the US has its issues but in terms of 'life options' it still offers the most in the world. So i would still say the US is the best country to live in. Notwithstanding all the concerns of the USA, there are still more life opportunities in the US than anywhere else in the world, i am talking about everything from: cities, climate, consumer goods, options for upward mobility (jobs, schools, etc etc etc)/ technological advancements etc.
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:08 PM
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DO you know how to read? I NEVER said that Portugal's economy was good. In fact I agree with you that Portugal's economy is in a bad state and not improving anytime soon. Trust me, I am the last person to say Portugal's economy is in a good position (the fact that I live here and all makes me more aware of this than the average person in this forum).
I just pointed out incorrect facts that you mentioned. Besides there are less than 100.000 Portuguese in Spain compared to 250.000 in Switzerland or 600.000 in France, and very few people cross the border to work.
Police earn only 1.600 in France? You can go much further with 800 in Portugal than 1.600 than in France, for sure.
If the UK is not that much better than Spain, why are thousands of Spaniards (along with other nationalities like the Portuguese) in London working in restaurants or cafés and many of them with Masters and stuff?
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Sydney Australia
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Different countries for different things

Overall I'd say Australia is good but it is quite pricey and yes it is isolated, it takes forever to go anywhere else. But it is stable, safe and overall favorable weather. More favorable work benefits & conditions than say the US although way less bang for the buck in too many other dimensions of living standards.

There is an advantage with the UK's location, one of my favorite places in the world is London, they really do many things very well in the UK, but to think from a living perspective, too costly, too congested (for the most part) and a little too dreary life conditions.
Canada. Yes more civilized than the US, similar life options as Australia, but more limiting compared to the US in the areas mentioned below.

the US has its issues but in terms of 'life options' it still offers the most in the world. So i would still say the US is the best country to live in. Notwithstanding all the concerns of the USA, there are still more life opportunities in the US than anywhere else in the world, i am talking about everything from: cities, climate, consumer goods, options for upward mobility (jobs, schools, etc etc etc)/ technological advancements etc.
When you compare USA and Australia, the main factor that I see is that the much greater population in the US results in opportunities being more evenly spread across the country. Here, the price of housing in Melbourne and Sydney are extremely high but many jobs are centred in these two cities, where about a third of the population live. If you have an average job, such as being a teacher, police officer or nurse you can try to move to a much cheaper location and be paid the same as in the major cities. Thus life can be very comfortable but there is a lot of competition for these jobs. If you work in a specialist field or in most sectors of the state government your job will be in Sydney and Melbourne. You will have high housing costs and have to deal with bad traffic and long commuting times.
I do not see the availability of consumer goods to be an issue. I can get books sent from England more quickly than from Melbourne. Amazon has just arrived here and everything is extremely cheap compared to years ago.
I think social mobility is at least as good here as in the US.
People are always commenting on the distance we are from everywhere yet Australians are very keen travellers. I cannot say I really enjoy 24 hour flights in economy but they do not stop me from travelling. You get used to it. People constantly do five night business trips to eg New York, Boston or whatever.
Our friends in Europe do not travel nearly as much as we do.
However in my opinion, there is no best country in the world. Depends on what you are wanting.
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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1. Don't call me names. And I just posted 100% true and factual information, i'll link official maps again...

2. I said youths, starting medics, not senior ones. I have a couple of Portuguese workmates and they told me. You're the only blind nationalist here, I checked your posts and you usually attack people who don't say flowers and unicorns about Portugal, so sorry but it's the reality.

3. I posted the official map from EURES yet I can post any other map from any other source. There isn't a single map or table where Portugal doesn't earn below 70% compared to Spain, yet Spain has just slightly lower wages than France, Germany, UK, etc. Don't make me laugh please, Spain's average wage is just 250€ lower than UK's one. Yet Portuguese one is 900€ lower than the Spanish one or 1100€ lower than the British one.

Oh yes dear, about 120.000 Portuguese people live in Spain without counting dozens of thousands crossing every day to work there, specially to Galicia. Turns out Spain is the 4th country in Europe with the biggest amount of Portuguese people... lol

4. Of course things are cheaper in Portugal as the wages are 80-90% lower than in Spain (even lower than in Czechia, Greece or Slovenia) but they're not much cheaper, the Spanish purchasing power is a lot bigger... i'm not attacking Portugal, i'm just putting real facts; Portuguese economy had to be rescued by the EU and nowadays the situation with the wages is critical, yet the country is growing, which is good, the country is poor for Western European standards...

This is the map with the GDP per regions in Europe (% from the EU average)



And the wages:



It's all official data. Turns out there is the same difference between Spain and Portugal than between Spain and Sweden, the richest EU country.

Differences between Spain and UK or France are pretty low (i'm talking about wages and purchasing power, their job markets are way better) but between Portugal and Spain, UK or France? For almost half to less than half! They're official data from the EURES (European statistic agency) and the European Union factbook. Portugal is still a country of emigrants, Spain has been an immigrant one since the 90s; so the difference is abysmal no matter if you want to deny that...

And about the terrorism thing you must be dreaming. Spain only had 1 terrorist attack in the last decade, yet you say several? There are way more chances to get killed in Portuguese roads (or any other country) than in a terror attack anywhere in Europe ...
Thanks for posting that wage chart. I was surprised that Portugal was that low and I was surprised that Spain is the equal of Italy and only about 15% less than the UK. For comparison, converted to Euros, the average wage in the USA is about 3000 Euros/mo. which would be about 20% higher than Sweden and 33% higher than Germany. I used this table to calculate...https://www.reinisfischer.com/averag...ean-union-2016

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