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Old Today, 10:41 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Right, they're about "expansion." And they "expanded" by unilaterally withdrawing from Gaza going so far as forcibly removing Jews who refused to leave because the PA demanded their newly acquired territory be Judenfrei. Israel's thanks from the people who finally got the land they've been demanding for decades? A 10-year wave of terror and thousands upon thousands of rockets rained down on them from the land they had just ceded. And then thickies wonder why they're not in any hurry to cede the West Bank and make themselves vulnerable from BOTH sides instead of just one.

Even so, Israel has also pushed their "expansion" plan in other such dastardly ways as offering to cede substantially ALL of the West Bank, an offer that was summarily rejected with no counter-offer.

But as the "expansion" agenda goes, nothing is so bold and cheeky as declaring their capital city is their capital city. Now THAT takes the cake.
In 70 years Israel has expanded itself all the way to a stamp-size country (one-quarter the size of Ireland!) that you can't even find on a world map without a magnifying glass. Quite an expansionist indeed.

As you and others have noted, Israel is the only country in the world that is not afforded the courtesy to designate its own capital. This is despite the fact that no people on earth have a stronger historical connection to a city than Jews do to Jerusalem and that nobody could reasonably dispute Israel's rights over at least west Jerusalem. Chalk it up to people's visceral double standard when it comes to Israel (or simple anti-semitism) combined with their cowardice in the face of the maniacal tantrums of the Arab street.

 
Old Today, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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In 70 years Israel has expanded itself all the way to a stamp-size country (one-quarter the size of Ireland!) that you can't even find on a world map without a magnifying glass. Quite an expansionist indeed.

As you and others have noted, Israel is the only country in the world that is not afforded the courtesy to designate its own capital. This is despite the fact that no people on earth have a stronger historical connection to a city than Jews do to Jerusalem and that nobody could reasonably dispute Israel's rights over at least west Jerusalem. Chalk it up to people's visceral double standard when it comes to Israel (or simple anti-semitism) combined with their cowardice in the face of the maniacal tantrums of the Arab street.
Not only does the world get to tell Israel where their capital can and cannot be, it seems they think they also get to tell the United States where we can and cannot put our own damn embassies. It's times like this when this forum really needs an middle finger emoticon.
 
Old Today, 11:24 AM
 
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Two major things:

a) He confirms the concept to other world leaders that when he (and therefore, we) says something, we mean it (as opposed to "the red line in the sand" & Syria), .... and...

2) establishes a larger pool of bargaining chips for use as sacrificial concessions when we all return to peace negotiations.. which he is about to advocate.

As others have pointed out above, the bad actors in the area already have plenty of excuses to justify their violent actions.

This doesn't really change anything except to raise the level of the inflammatory rhetoric. Please remember the really lame worry of the Liberals that "Guantanamo was a recruiting tool of the Extremists", yet there were two attempts on the WTC BEFORE that prison camp had been established and NONE after.
Because they succeeded in taking down the WTC.

I don't see how this helps or solve anything.
 
Old Today, 12:47 PM
 
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This discussion has more its place in the politics subforum. Please proceed there:
Trump moving to recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel
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