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Old 01-12-2018, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.sandi...story,amp.html

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/cali...465296053.html

What is going on with California. I go there a lot and would love a bullet train from LA to SF but now the earliest date of completion will be 2029 (!!) and that is wishful thinking.

Almost at 100 billion dollars in cost and going up. Why canít we be like Japan, or China, or even Germany. They donít worry about private property or special interests, they just get it done. China finished a rail longer than this one in 5 years and for far less.

California has a huge workforce of illegals whoíll work for peanuts, just get it done now, not in 2029.
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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I agree with the person quoted in your second link who says, "This is a solution in search of a problem." There's not enough demand to justify the cost.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I agree with the person quoted in your second link who says, "This is a solution in search of a problem." There's not enough demand to justify the cost.
Sure there is. Iíll ride it and many need it but donít know it.

America needs a change in culture away from cars towards public transport, itís more sustainable and affordable.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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California has a huge workforce of illegals whoíll work for peanuts, just get it done now, not in 2029.
Illegals working for peanuts? That's who you want to build a high speed rail system? No thanks.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:32 PM
 
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Sure there is. Iíll ride it and many need it but donít know it.

America needs a change in culture away from cars towards public transport, itís more sustainable and affordable.
Most people who go from Los Angeles to San Francisco regularly, fly. Flying is both cheaper and faster than driving. A train would simply replace some of the air miles with train miles. Instead of driving their car to the airport, people will drive their car to the train station. And for most of the rest of their lives, they will be driving a car (or someone will be driving them), not riding a train.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:59 PM
 
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Maybe Cali.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Sure there is. Iíll ride it and many need it but donít know it.

America needs a change in culture away from cars towards public transport, itís more sustainable and affordable.
You don't make people change from car culture to public transport culture by building public transport. You do it by taking their cars away. Good luck.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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You don't make people change from car culture to public transport culture by building public transport. You do it by taking their cars away. Good luck.
L.A. is one example of that. They've really built out their Metro Rail over the last 10 years, but still most people would rather drive their own cars and sit in traffic. It's still the kind of culture that believes that public transportation is for the poor people who can't afford cars.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.sandi...story,amp.html

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/cali...465296053.html

What is going on with California. I go there a lot and would love a bullet train from LA to SF but now the earliest date of completion will be 2029 (!!) and that is wishful thinking.

Almost at 100 billion dollars in cost and going up. Why can’t we be like Japan, or China, or even Germany. They don’t worry about private property or special interests, they just get it done. China finished a rail longer than this one in 5 years and for far less.

California has a huge workforce of illegals who’ll work for peanuts, just get it done now, not in 2029.
You recently also condemned China for eating dogs, but you want us to be more like China?

Public transportation is part of life in other places. Americans are in love with their cars.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:23 AM
 
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California seems better
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