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Old 01-31-2018, 12:24 PM
 
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I love America but, a lot of our cities do not belong on that list.

New York. Multiple industries, multi-national political and, corporate interests.
Washington DC. Where you go to buy Congressmen and Senators.
Hollywood. Entertainment, one of the few things we still can export.
San Francisco. HQ to many international tech corporations; Google, Facebook, etc..

The rest? People just live there. Maybe I'm being too harsh on the other ones but, Chicago? That entry almost invalidates the entire list...
Wait, let me get this straight. You don't think Chicago should be on a list of global cities? Chicago, which nearly any formal or credible city study / survey has Chicago as a top or near-tier top global city (~top 10-12), yet you don't think Chicago should be included in what equates to a top 17 city in this particular study. You think Chicago' inclusion "invalidates" this list? You're right, you know more than JLL.

Woah, I think you need to educate yourself on the dynamics of global cities because that was one of the biggest head scratcher posts in C-D in a while. Or perhaps, you have a grudge or an insecurity here.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Seoul's rise from war-torn, poverty-stricken dump to Top Seven Global City, all within a single life time, is nothing short of astonishing. I think it's an amazing city; so clean and vibrant and livable. And as far as I know, it lacks the problems associated with a restless underclass that some of the other cities on this list are afflicted with. It wouldn't surprise me to see it rise to the very top of this list in the not-to-distant future.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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Another one of those alleged rockstar city lists full of bs. How original.
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Wait, let me get this straight. You don't think Chicago should be on a list of global cities? Chicago, which nearly any formal or credible city study / survey has Chicago as a top or near-tier top global city (~top 10-12), yet you don't think Chicago should be included in what equates to a top 17 city in this particular study. You think Chicago' inclusion "invalidates" this list? You're right, you know more than JLL.

Woah, I think you need to educate yourself on the dynamics of global cities because that was one of the biggest head scratcher posts in C-D in a while. Or perhaps, you have a grudge or an insecurity here.
I think some people let their dislikes of certain cities (or just ignorance) interfere with their ability to objectively assess these cities on the relevant criteria. There is a reason why Chicago routinely ranks well in these "global connectivity" studies -- because it scores very highly across almost all the relevant metrics. A top 10 metropolitan economy, lots of Fortune 500 companies, key transportation hub, strong legal & finance presence, globally renowned universities, and top quality cultural institutions across the full spectrum (museums, performing arts etc). Chicago may not have as well defined a brand as NY, SF or LA but it also has almost no chinks in its armor.

Interestingly, among the top 10 metropolitan economies the only cities that did not make it into the elite group of 17 "Established World Cities" in this study are Moscow and Osaka. Probably because, while they are great vibrant cities with top notch urban amenities, their cross-border business and cultural reach is much more limited than a city like Chicago.
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:12 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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I heard Seoul has some interesting modern infill architecture? Are the designs better than what has been going up in American cities?
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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I heard Seoul has some interesting modern infill architecture? Are the designs better than what has been going up in American cities?
I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but one thing that struck me about Seoul is that for a city its size, it has only a small handful of true skyscrapers. I had been expecting something like New York (you know, quills on a porcupine!) but instead it reminded me more of Honolulu -- countless high-rises but few skyscrapers.

The newer high-rises, and the new skyscrapers, do look visually interesting, at least to me. I'm hoping that more of this sort of development will continue to occur, and gradually replace the bland, feature-less "commie blocks" that are such a big part of the built environment there at the present time.
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Old 02-03-2018, 04:12 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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I heard Seoul has some interesting modern infill architecture? Are the designs better than what has been going up in American cities?
There is a constant renewal process in Seoul. Old architecture even if its 40-60 years old are constantly being torn down with newer and bigger buildings. I wouldnt say it is infill. It is leveling of entire neighborhoods rather than a piecemeal approach like you see in American cities. Seoul overall looks like a newer city. Here are some google links to what older seoul looks like.
Oldest parts:
https://goo.gl/maps/FNDDCQNPtvu

Older Seoul older than 20 years but not ancient.
https://goo.gl/maps/UnjeseCc7aD2
https://goo.gl/maps/HWsMtV1gkFp
https://goo.gl/maps/4WRtkPMGCAM2

Newer at least within last 20 years.
https://goo.gl/maps/usc12xQwVpT2
https://goo.gl/maps/x624maJRU8r
https://goo.gl/maps/yMKkNWJMF3Q2

There are some nice architecture buildings like Dongdamun Plaza and floating islands near Banpo bridge but overall I think some American cities are much more out of the box when it comes to stand out architecture.
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Old 02-03-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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There is a constant renewal process in Seoul. Old architecture even if its 40-60 years old are constantly being torn down with newer and bigger buildings. I wouldnt say it is infill. It is leveling of entire neighborhoods rather than a piecemeal approach like you see in American cities. Seoul overall looks like a newer city. Here are some google links to what older seoul looks like.
Oldest parts:
https://goo.gl/maps/FNDDCQNPtvu

Older Seoul older than 20 years but not ancient.
https://goo.gl/maps/UnjeseCc7aD2
https://goo.gl/maps/HWsMtV1gkFp
https://goo.gl/maps/4WRtkPMGCAM2

Newer at least within last 20 years.
https://goo.gl/maps/usc12xQwVpT2
https://goo.gl/maps/x624maJRU8r
https://goo.gl/maps/yMKkNWJMF3Q2

There are some nice architecture buildings like Dongdamun Plaza and floating islands near Banpo bridge but overall I think some American cities are much more out of the box when it comes to stand out architecture.
I think I like the look of the first link the most.

It's quaint and small, but I think it has the most character and intangible depth to it.
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Old 02-03-2018, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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There is no such thing as a "Big Seven", there is a Big Four... NYC, Tokyo, London, Paris.
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Old 02-03-2018, 02:28 PM
 
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There is no such thing as a "Big Seven", there is a Big Four... NYC, Tokyo, London, Paris.
It's a typological taxonomy that they can define how they like.

It's pointless arguing against it unless you can show the typology to somehow be internally incoherent, such as contradicting its own criteria. Otherwise you just end up arguing semantics.
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