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Old 02-01-2018, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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if thats the case why don't all three become republics?

The UK lost the place as the largest trading partner with all these countries years ago and with that in mind, its a wonder all 3 are so tolerant of the UK and still are under the British monarchy (albeit constitutional) and don't formally sever ties completely,

I am an Aussie who would love to get rid of all British aspects of this country, what about you???
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Old 02-01-2018, 12:50 AM
 
Location: S.W. British Columbia
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if thats the case why don't all three become republics?

The UK lost the place as the largest trading partner with all these countries years ago and with that in mind, its a wonder all 3 are so tolerant of the UK and still are under the British monarchy (albeit constitutional) and don't formally sever ties completely,

I am an Aussie who would love to get rid of all British aspects of this country, what about you???
I don't feel that the UK has lost interest in Canada. And I don't know about all the other 15 countries that QE is monarch of but Canada is not a British monarchy nor under a British monarchy. Canada is a Canadian monarchy with a Canadian monarch (presently Queen Elizabeth II) who resides in England and who by Canadian law is a Canadian. The monarch's legal identity as Sovereign is "Canada" as she is the personification of the state Canada. Her role as monarch of Canada is entirely separate from her 15 roles as monarch of all other 15 countries that she's monarch of.

I like our Canadian monarchy and our Canadian Queen and her Royal Family and I like the way our Canadian government works so well without any interference from our monarch.

The idea of Canada becoming a republic is repulsive to me.

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Old 02-01-2018, 12:53 AM
 
Location: USA
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Aw come on, no need to be so harsh on dad. Maybe they just want to cheer the UK up and say they're under the crown.

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Old 02-01-2018, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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if thats the case why don't all three become republics?

The UK lost the place as the largest trading partner with all these countries years ago and with that in mind, its a wonder all 3 are so tolerant of the UK and still are under the British monarchy (albeit constitutional) and don't formally sever ties completely,

I am an Aussie who would love to get rid of all British aspects of this country, what about you???
The UK lost it's place as the dominant trading partner due to the logistics of the 21st century. Britain is no longer the dominant power in the world, although it remains a respectable force.

Just to be on the same page, when you say you want to "sever ties completely" and "get rid of all British aspects" what exactly do you mean?

1. Are you content with replacing the parliamentary monarchy with a federal republic? or

2. Do you want to completely cut ties off with Britain? As in no diplomatic relation (something like the US and Iran or Israel and a number of Muslim countries)
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Old 02-01-2018, 03:03 AM
 
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if thats the case why don't all three become republics?

The UK lost the place as the largest trading partner with all these countries years ago and with that in mind, its a wonder all 3 are so tolerant of the UK and still are under the British monarchy (albeit constitutional) and don't formally sever ties completely,

I am an Aussie who would love to get rid of all British aspects of this country, what about you???
If it was true, how come the vote to change the New Zealand flag resulted in a majority to retain the flag?

For most Australians and Canadians, becoming a republic is not on the list of major priorities now. Actually the people are far more angry at fellow politicians than the Queen.
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Old 02-01-2018, 03:58 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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If it was true, how come the vote to change the New Zealand flag resulted in a majority to retain the flag?

For most Australians and Canadians, becoming a republic is not on the list of major priorities now. Actually the people are far more angry at fellow politicians than the Queen.
Makes sense, given that the Queen holds no real power in this day and age.
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Old 02-01-2018, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Sydney Australia
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I think one issue is that people distrust politicians and do not want a politician as head of state nor anyone appointed by a politician.
I was a staunch republican when I was young. Now I could not really care one way or another. London is my favourite city in the world outside Australia and I do not have negative feelings towards the UK. I am descended from three convicts and like me, many Aussies still have British heritage.
Some people believe that changing either the flag or becoming a republic would simply be a waste of a lot of money.
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I don't believe the UK lost interest in Canada at all. What happened was over time Canada asserted a methodical separation until it was independent. Keeping the monarchy was not just about keeping a monarch, but about keeping the system of government.

No government is perfect, as is no system, but our parliamentary system seems to work well for Canada, overall. I haven't heard much talk here about us becoming a republic.
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Old 02-03-2018, 04:49 AM
 
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I don't feel that the UK has lost interest in Canada. And I don't know about all the other 15 countries that QE is monarch of but Canada is not a British monarchy nor under a British monarchy. Canada is a Canadian monarchy with a Canadian monarch (presently Queen Elizabeth II) who resides in England and who by Canadian law is a Canadian. The monarch's legal identity as Sovereign is "Canada" as she is the personification of the state Canada. Her role as monarch of Canada is entirely separate from her 15 roles as monarch of all other 15 countries that she's monarch of.

I like our Canadian monarchy and our Canadian Queen and her Royal Family and I like the way our Canadian government works so well without any interference from our monarch.

The idea of Canada becoming a republic is repulsive to me.

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queen elizabeth II is a very impressive head of state but canada becoming a republic = " repulsive "

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Old 02-03-2018, 04:52 AM
 
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If it was true, how come the vote to change the New Zealand flag resulted in a majority to retain the flag?

For most Australians and Canadians, becoming a republic is not on the list of major priorities now. Actually the people are far more angry at fellow politicians than the Queen.
well new zealand has always been culturally more british than either australia or canada , in the case of canada , its biggest influence by far culturally is the neighbouring usa , with regards australia , apart from having had immigration from places other than the uk or ireland for far longer than new zealand , australia has always had a very large irish mix in its population , until relatively recently , not that many irish went to new zealand by comparison bar protestant irish who were of course pro monarchy
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