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Old 02-07-2018, 11:58 AM
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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The level of police brutality is difficult to determine since the definition of what constitutes brutality is individual even in places where it is codified, and there is not only a history, but a tradition of police protections both legal, quasi-legal, and illegal pretty much everywhere.

America's problem is notorious, in part, because there is a lot of abuse, especially in certain departments/cities, but also because America is very transparent about its faults. Things are widely exposed, and police get away with a lot of their abuses, and the resulting outrage echoes around the world these days, it seems.

It doesn't help that people make obvious baiting comparisons like contrasting a specific abuse of police power, like the death of Freddy Gray, with handpicked images of police in other countries like this one of German police that was popular in American anti-fascist forums recently.

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Old 02-08-2018, 04:17 AM
Location: Great Britain
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Police brutality is the use of excessive and/or unnecessary force by police when dealing with civilians. “Excessive use of force” means a force well beyond what would be necessary in order to handle a situation.

In Europe the European Covention on Human Rights comes in to play and more specifically Article 2 'The Right to Life', Article 3 which prohibits torture and "inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment and Article 8 the Right to Privacy and Family Life which protects an individual from being strip searched in public or having his physical privacy interferred with.

The College of Policing for England & Wales offers guidelines in relation to the use of force by the police.

Police use of force - College of Policing APP

It also should be noted there are very different legal stipulayions regarding the use of force and more especially deadly force when comparing the US and most European countries wjo have to abide by the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). In the UK we not only have to adhere to the ECHR it is also enshrined in our own domestic law in the form of the Human Rights Act 1998.
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In the US, the only truly national deadly force behavioral mandates are set by the Supreme Court, which in 1989 deemed it constitutionally permissible for police to use deadly force when they “reasonably” perceive imminent and grave harm.

State laws regulating deadly force – in the 38 states where they exist – are almost always as permissive as Supreme Court precedent allows, or more so.

By contrast, national standards in most European countries conform to the European Convention on Human Rights, which impels its 47 signatories to permit only deadly force that is “absolutely necessary” to achieve a lawful purpose.

Killings excused under America’s “reasonable belief” standards often violate Europe’s “absolute necessity” standards.For example, the unfounded fear of Darren Wilson – the former Ferguson cop who fatally shot Michael Brown – that Brown was armed would not have likely absolved him in Europe. Nor would officers’ fears of the screwdriver that a mentally ill Dallas man Jason Harrison refused to drop.

In Europe, killing is considered unnecessary if alternatives exist. For example, national guidelines in Spain would have prescribed that Wilson incrementally pursue verbal warnings, warning shots, and shots at nonvital parts of the body before resorting to deadly force.

Six shots would likely be deemed disproportionate to the threat that Brown, unarmed and wounded, allegedly posed.In the US, only eight states require verbal warnings (when possible), while warning and leg shots are typically prohibited.

In stark contrast, Finland and Norway require that police obtain permission from a superior officer, whenever possible, before shooting anyone.Not only do centralized standards in Europe make it easier to restrict police behavior, but centralized training centers efficiently teach police officers how to avoid using deadly weapons.

Why do American cops kill so many compared to European cops?

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