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View Poll Results: What world city is most like Atlanta
Tokyo (or another Japanese city) 4 8.00%
Seoul (or another S Korean city) 0 0%
Sydney (or another Australian city) 4 8.00%
Toronto (or another Canadian city) 11 22.00%
Mexico City (or another city in Mexico) 1 2.00%
Sao Paulo, Brazil 3 6.00%
London (or another UK city) 1 2.00%
Paris (or another city in France) 0 0%
Frankfurt, Germany 7 14.00%
Amsterdam 1 2.00%
Johannesburg, South Africa 9 18.00%
Beijing (or another city in China) 1 2.00%
Rome (or another city in Italy) 1 2.00%
Other (please mention) 12 24.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-03-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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There is no city outside the US that is comparable to Atlanta...………….you see, there is a God.
Why the disdain?
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Old 07-03-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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??Phoenix and Houston are more alike than Atlanta.They all sprawl but we aren't talking about its metro.I would assume we are discussing the core of these cities.
Phoenix built environment downtown is nothing like Atlanta.Atlanta does have a grid in its core very similar to North American cities including Toronto.Complte with turn of the century architecture.Atlanta core was vmuch more vibrant up until the 70's. If you google old pictures from 40-70 years ago you would not recognize it as Atlanta.Those old bone are still there although much has also been lost.

Even so,when I have driven from around Toronto suburbs,its very similar to Atlanta although much smaller. Take Dunwoody and compare it to Mississauga. Dunwoody actually is more densely populated.It to is a separate city just a few minutes from the core.I say this to illustrate that while Atlanta does sprawl if you look at the metro,its not as sprawl when you are in places like the core where its just not notieable,
Again Im not saying this to validate that Atlanta is just like Toronto,but there are aspect of even Houston that are similar to Toronto. Houston is just big like Toronto but far less vibrant.
The downtown portion of Atlanta physically urban.I dont mean vibrancy. Definitely more foot traffic on the street than Phoenix and Houston. Houston has tunnels that takes away from the vibrancy but thats changing as the city reorients for pedestrian activity.

People discuss "sprawl" but its only a factor if you are going where the sprawl is.Being in the core of city has no bearing on sprawl,
Nathan Phillips Square> Centennial Olympic Park
Your first paragraph shows that Houston is more like Atlanta than Houston is like Phoenix.
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Old 07-03-2018, 09:34 AM
 
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Your first paragraph shows that Houston is more like Atlanta than Houston is like Phoenix.
Actually Houston and Atlanta are alike but Phoenix is more like Houston than it is like Atlanta.Thats what I was attempting to say.
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Hopefully none of them. The world only needs one Atlanta.

LOL and OUCH!
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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Whats more telling is people making ignorant one liners about places they have never berm,
Just going off of someone else's opinion who only stayed after a one or two night hotel visit.
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Old 07-03-2018, 04:36 PM
 
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Why the disdain?
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Whats more telling is people making ignorant one liners about places they have never berm,
Just going off of someone else's opinion who only stayed after a one or two night hotel visit.
Everyone seems to hate Atlanta except for the people from here. Most people never been or are basing their opinion from their experience of transferring at the airport or driving through it. Otherwise they have this image of the city being ghetto and a war zone, and the only city in America where people are shooting and killing each other.
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Old 07-03-2018, 04:48 PM
 
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Everyone seems to hate Atlanta except for the people from here. Most people never been or are basing their opinion from their experience of transferring at the airport or driving through it. Otherwise they have this image of the city being ghetto and a war zone, and the only city in America where people are shooting and killing each other.
PeopleI have talked to who have actually been there like it.Not just those that go for a short stay downtown but people who get a chance to explore,
I have met people that have been to Atlanta for business for years but never knew it had a subway.

I think I read somewhere that Atlanta had more international headquarters in the world,ranking in the top 10 cities.I mean companies that are not American like Porsche North America and Mercedes Benz North America.
All these companies choosing Atlanta instead of many more well known U.S cities as well as Canadian must see something they like in Atlanta.It aint just cost either as cost is not going to ne the main reason huge companies will move to a city.Has to be more
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Toronto is similar to Chicago and no one would say Chicago is like Atlanta. You have to really be pulling at strings to make the comparison.
Actually on a world scale Chicago is a carbon copy of Atlanta. Most Chicagoans live in the Napervilles, Elgin’s, Joilets, Springbrooks of Illinois. Those that live in density are simply a minority. A larger minority than Atlanta but still a minority. Even NYC is exactly like Atlanta when you compare it to literally every city outside of the United States.
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Old 07-10-2018, 01:43 PM
 
Location: White Rock BC
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Why the disdain?
No distain, I`m quite sure Atlanta has a lot of good things going for it. That said, the Atlanta growth model is the last one any city on the planet should be trying to emulate. It`s sprawl is an urban planning nightmare, destroys huge amounts of productive farmland, devastates the ecology, and ever expanding ultra-low density development is both physically unstainable and grotesquely expensive.

Atlanta is a poster child of what every city should avoid.
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Old 07-10-2018, 08:04 PM
 
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Actually on a world scale Chicago is a carbon copy of Atlanta. Most Chicagoans live in the Napervilles, Elgin’s, Joilets, Springbrooks of Illinois. Those that live in density are simply a minority. A larger minority than Atlanta but still a minority. Even NYC is exactly like Atlanta when you compare it to literally every city outside of the United States.
Though I generally agree with you post I catch in numerous threads. But this post .... I disagree with. Elgin and Joliet are like the farthest reach of Chicago exurbs. Just that they are cities in their own right over true suburbs. I'm sure you mean real suburbs as in sprawl. But Chicago's city limits alone are substantial on a true-grid unlike Atlanta whatsoever.

Clearly also some of its older suburbs have a city-type grid. Some more dense ... some more clearly suburban sprawl. But the city proper alone is 2.7 million. By far .... the city still ranks up there (US standards of course) in densities after NYC and I believe SF? Even its bungalow belt is dense compared to most sunbelt cities. It is a city on a grid with green-frontage tree-lined neighborhoods of close-knit housing. Its standard lot size is 125' deep x 25' wide fronts it has neighborhoods of degrees larger by merely a few feet .... from that lot size. Even its bungalow-belt built mostly in the 1920s boom periods that is 1/3 of the city today. Are very close-knit homes and small yards. Most chose to build garages in the alleyways over the decades. But that then takes up substantial limited yard space that is left. You have room for a small patio then and garden.

The city freed fronts of homes of ugly power-line poles, by stringing its power-grid down alleyways. A good call for frontage aesthetics.

Its older Cottage-home and bungalow neighborhoods. Merely take on a single-home or pre-suburban look in frontage with a front-lawn look that defines suburban living ..... that most has much more. Then its older neighborhoods by a couple decades .... is length of the homes were smaller for bungalow era. So frontage became more a front-lawn. Then the bungalow changed to new types of home looks 40s thru early 60s till the city limits was built out. Only a very limited are in fringe areas. Look truly suburban.

The city also added to density with apartment buildings along main corridors, as the city grid has 8-blocks to a mile then main street with additional diagonal streets as main ones too. Even whole blocks of apartment areas and 2-3 flat homes. The highest density areas generally had larger homes split into multi-residential today to added high-rise living and old warehousing to lofts.

So is Chicago like Atlanta .... No. NYC exactly like Atlanta? Absolutely not. NYC is still up there in density rank with the world's cities. Especially Manhattan.

Grant you Atlanta city proper is a smaller % then most other larger US cities of its metro. But even Atlanta Proper is still mostly neighborhoods of homes on larger lots then many cities especially in the North.

Also, Atlanta has NO street-grid. Chicago does and NYC. It's true a true street-grid isn't common in older world cities. In that ..... maybe Atlanta is more like them.

Here is a example of the HUGE difference in Chicago's city grid
(clearly defining its borders to its suburbs) and Atlanta's from
high above by NASA.

...... Chi - Ata . Chi alone closer . over its densest areas . bungalow-belt slice.
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