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Old 04-04-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Beijing - Shanghai HSR Laid over Northeast Corridor

This line is gradually gaining popularity through the years and it is reaching its capacity at weekends and holidays. With the introduction of the China Standardized EMU, the highest operation speed of the line is raised to 350 kph on Sept 21, 2017. The fastest train will complete the journey in 4 hours 24 minutes (G7), while making two stops along the trip at Jinan and Nanjing.


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Old 04-04-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I do not understand why we cannot have a better passenger rail system. We put man on the moon and can invade countries in a month.

China is killing us when it comes to infrastructure.

We are going to be third world.

Also, who wants to ride a plane when your civil rights are raped by the TSA and people are getting thrown off places for no reason.
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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Infrastructure covers a huge area, so the answers are going to depending on which area we are talking about.

For instance, communication infrastructure, as far as I know, is just as good in the US as elsewhere.

Same with water and I would guess the electric grid.

Where you start to see differences in in things like roads, bridges, transit, etc. Some of these things are state specific. Like in Canada, Quebec's infrastructure is considered to be poorer than other provinces in regards to roads.

Someone mentioned airports, and yes, a lot of US airports look shabby and old, but some are nice. You have to remember that a lot people coming from other countries may land at LAX, or JFK and La Guardia. Not great airports IMO...but I hear that may change in regards to NY.

Good transit overall seems lacking in a lot of US cities.
Cell phone coverage, mobile internet, and cable internet are generally much better in Europe. I don't remember the exact numbers but I was surprised by the high prices too when we looked at mobile internet in the US.

It makes sense if you think about it, Europe is generally much denser populated so investing in infrastructure like this makes more sense in Europe. The same applies to public transportation, the US with its suburbs are too sparsely populated and sprawled out for public transportation investments to make any sense.
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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Freeway is Europe is much better than US but they are toll road and expensive.
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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I do not understand why we cannot have a better passenger rail system. We put man on the moon and can invade countries in a month.

China is killing us when it comes to infrastructure.

We are going to be third world.

Also, who wants to ride a plane when your civil rights are raped by the TSA and people are getting thrown off places for no reason.
I'd refer you to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbEfzuCLoAQ
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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Cell phone coverage, mobile internet, and cable internet are generally much better in Europe.
The top countries in Europe are, but the others are not.

Smartphone penetration
1. UAE
2. Sweden
3. Switzerland
4. South Korea
5. Taiwan
6. Canada
7. USA
8. The Netherlands
9. Germany
10. UK

4G penetration
1. South Korea
2. Japan
3. Norway
4. USA
5. Hong Kong
6. The Netherlands
7. Lithuania
8. Sweden
9. Hungary
10. Taiwan
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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High speed trains are nice and there are high speed train lines in Turkey too. They mostly make sense between two close cities where it wouldn’t make sense to fly from one to the other. Like two cities within 3 hours driving distance. You wouldn’t fly between them but high speed train can lower the travel time to 1-1.5 hour from 3 hours.

Having said that, we had rented a car from NYC to Boston and we got lost around Connecticut. That was great because we saw the great scenery in Connecticut with beautiful homes and ponds. So travel by car also has it’s plus sides.

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Old 04-04-2018, 11:57 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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It makes sense if you think about it, Europe is generally much denser populated so investing in infrastructure like this makes more sense in Europe. The same applies to public transportation, the US with its suburbs are too sparsely populated and sprawled out for public transportation investments to make any sense.
Americans generally prefer living in houses and driving, instead of living in apartments and taking public transportation. This is not the case so much in the central cities, but overall it is.

So, the infrastructure in the U.S. reflects that. Lots of highways and roads everywhere, and lots of suburban sprawl - even though nowadays there is a move towards denser development in many suburbs to create a more urban experience.

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Old 04-04-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Having said that, we had rented a car from NYC to Boston and we got lost around Connecticut. That was great because we saw the great scenery in Connecticut with beautiful homes and ponds. So travel by car also has itís plus sides.
New England is beautiful. Glad you got to visit there.
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas/China
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US rail is bad at least for passengers. But the US has a world class interstate system that other countries have modeled after, including China. US airports are mostly good, but a few are needing upgrades.

US infrastructure is also old and comparing it to developing countries with brand new infrastructure isn’t entirely fair and again rail, and perhaps some inter city public infrastructure isn’t good. But it’s pretty easy for foreigners to rent cars and drive themselves around.

We are a car dependent culture and I don’t think there is anything wrong with that.

A lot of smaller cities in China or Europe do have pretty bad airports and train stations. Besides the high speed rail, most Chinese trains are pretty crappy.
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