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Old 04-05-2018, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Does it? Maybe outside of Tokyo but inside the city it's more of a hassle to own a car than a convenience. There's so many extra taxes and fees.
I think Japan does that to discourage car usage...but car ownership seems high despite that.

Japan is a bit interesting in that regard. All things related to 'getting around' is insanely expensive - cars, taxis, trains, buses, etc. I think it's their 'cash cow' for gov't revenue.
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Old 04-05-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Macao
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China is building a seven-nation rail system in Africa that will connect Ethiopia and Kenya across Africa to the DRC. The US is living in the past.
Yep! I saw that too. China is building infrastructure at an alarming rate. And, yes, even in other continents like Africa. They are also underway in re-building a modern Silk Road to trade overland all the way to Europe. Infrastructurally speaking, they are getting quite amazing at moving Chinese goods around the world.

I think it shows the values/priorities of respective nations. China is looking at economic opportunities and working to increase wealth, trade, partnerships. The China/Africa connection is something completely unexpected 10 years ago. I've been to Africa a few times in the last few years, and Chinese are everything building infrastructure.

Addis Ababa, which is built spread out, much like an American city, just built one of the first metro lines in Sub-Saharan Africa. It's more of a commuter type of line though, as African cities lack the density of cities in Europe and Asia. I think it'll be interesting how Africa, as a continent, tackles this issue...as their cities somewhat resemble the low-density sprawly non-pedestrian-oriented feel that the U.S. has.
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Old 04-06-2018, 02:57 AM
 
Location: the dairyland
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Military expenditure still only amounts to about 4% of the GDP. The US has all the necessary means to fund a HSR project. The question is whether there is demand. Greysholic is right in stating that density plays a critical role. There's a reason why neither Canada nor Australia have any HSR service running as of right now despite both of them being developed nations.
Density does play a role but still, countries like Norway or Sweden have a lower population density than the US while still offering better public transportation networks. It's a shame if you consider that especially the Western region of the US used to depend on trains for their development/settlement and now most of that has been abandoned.
On a local level every US city pales in comparison to an equally or even smaller sized city in Europe when it comes to this.
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Old 04-06-2018, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Density does play a role but still, countries like Norway or Sweden have a lower population density than the US while still offering better public transportation networks. It's a shame if you consider that especially the Western region of the US used to depend on trains for their development/settlement and now most of that has been abandoned.
On a local level every US city pales in comparison to an equally or even smaller sized city in Europe when it comes to this.
I agree with you. As a person who used to live in countryside Japan, and who grew up along the Great Lakes in Michigan.

You can be out in the middle of nowhere Japan, and trains come by, sometimes with few people, or they might just be 3-4 cars, once an hour. But they are there, and they take everyone from town A into somewhat bigger small city B. This just keeps everyone and everything functional. If your car breaks down, you can still get to work, you can still get groceries. There are tons of low-density single-family homes in Japan, but they still serve them all with public transportation. (If anyone is curious, I was living up in a small town in Niigata prefecture, out in the middle of nowhere in Japan).

I grew up along the Michigan Great Lakes, and NOTHING comes by....not even buses. Just zero. But, the roads along the Great Lakes are clogged with traffic...a train line that moved people up the coasts in summer would be fantastic. But since nothing like that exists in the U.S., people don't even consider it. And the infrastructural issues are so dire, that type of thing would be the last thing on an American's mind for a need.
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Old 04-06-2018, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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In terms of the UK -

National Rail Map of Great Britain

Rail Map of Northern England

London & South East Services

London Rail & Tube Services

Tube map redesign reveals how London Underground network could look in 2040 - London Evening Standard

As well as Crossrail and Thameslink and the complete refurbishment of the Underground with new signalling and new rolling stock, the Northern and Berkerloo Lines are being extended, the London Overground extended to include a new West London Orbital Rail System, a new Crossrail 2 North to South is planned and the Tramlink and Docklands Light Railway (DLR) network are being refurbished with the DLR receiving new stock.

Trains on Thameslink are going to run through London every 2 minutes, some Central London Tube Stations have a train every 90 seconds.

Whilst nationally, there is to be a new High Speed Rail Network HS2 and a new high speed Northern Crossrail linking the Northern Cities, as well as improvements to transpenine and Edinburgh to Glasgow rail services.

Key projects – Network Rail

Planning for the future - Transport for London

London rail line not used for over 100 years could be revived | London - ITV News

Rail routes axed under 1960s Beeching cuts could reopen to ease overcrowding - The Telegraph

There's to be a new Lower Thames Crossing, which will be a new 6 Billion Tunnel close to the existing Dartford Bridge and Tunnel, and this will link direcrly to the M25 London Orbital Motorway and several new bridges are also planned.

Heathrow has been given the go ahead to build a new third runway and rebuild the existing terminals up to the standard of the new Terminals 5 and 2 and the airport will be linked to Crossrail and HS2, the project will cost around 15 Billion. Whilst Gatwick is also looking at a new runway, and is now linked to the new Thameslink as is Luton Airport which is building a new light rail system between Luton Parkway station and the Airport. The London City Airport is being rebuilt and extended, and already links with the Docklands Light Railway, with increasing calls for a Crossrail link. Stansted has just added a new arrivals lounge and the Stansted Express Train takes passengers direcrtly to London Liverpool Station, wqhere you can also catch trains to the rapidly expanding Southend Airport.

Manchester Airport is also undergping a massive redvelopment project and is now linked to the national rail link with the new Ordsall Chord linking Manchesters main stations to form what is known as northern hub. Whilst Birmingham Airport will be linked to HS2 vastly improving it's national connectivity.

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Old 04-06-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Macao
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China's Infrastructure-building abroad:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvXROXiIpvQ

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Old 04-06-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Macao
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"Crumbling America":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pducRLyDmiY&t=7s

This is on the Highway System...
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Old 04-07-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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another interesting map


http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chor...wide1920.0.png
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Old 04-07-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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Is this map very old? As I can tell a lot of railroads in China do not show up here.
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Old 04-08-2018, 09:12 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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How so? Most European cities are older, yet have superior public transportation.
They have superior public transportation because they are older. You can retrofit public transportation infrastructure into an existing city.

Planning a grid that can accomodate a high volume of private vehicles to overlay an existing city wouldn't be possible without destroying much of the building stock.

America's fault in its transportation infrastructure was the hubris of assuming population growth would be slower (less pressure on the system) and economic growth would rise more steeply than it has (more funding for maintrenance and expansion).
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