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View Poll Results: San Jose vs Vancouver: which is a better city?
Vancouver 20 80.00%
San Jose 5 20.00%
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I'm not saying Coyote Valley isn't beautiful. Actually San Jose isn't an ugly city and the surrounding environs are actually quite nice. I just find it odd that a city limits would include so much low to possibly no density infill as part of its city limits.
San Jose was never designed to be what it has become. It was a suburb of San Francisco and in many ways, still has some of the laid back vibe of a suburb despite its size. The invention of the microchip changed all of that and the Santa Clara Valley became known as Silicon Valley. SJ is near the geographic heart of the physical Santa Clara Valley and the Silicon Valley, a term that lacks precision. It and the immediate areas around it (Mountain View, Sunnyvale, Santa Clara etc.) grew into their own metro, one of three sub metros of the San Francisco Bay Area. This happened very fast so SJ didn't grow due to the careful type of urban planning most cities do. It was simply built out since the city had the geographic land area to do so.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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San Jose was never designed to be what it has become. It was a suburb of San Francisco and in many ways, still has some of the laid back vibe of a suburb despite its size. The invention of the microchip changed all of that and the Santa Clara Valley became known as Silicon Valley. SJ is near the geographic heart of the physical Santa Clara Valley and the Silicon Valley, a term that lacks precision. It and the immediate areas around it (Mountain View, Sunnyvale, Santa Clara etc.) grew into their own metro, one of three sub metros of the San Francisco Bay Area. This happened very fast so SJ didn't grow due to the careful type of urban planning most cities do. It was simply built out since the city had the geographic land area to do so.
Great post and information/background! I'm not even judging San Jose for this either. It is entirely understandable. San Jose kind of reminds me of the Toronto/GTA equivalent of Mississauga. It is its own city and grew unbelievable fast, Is home to many regional and even international Canadian Hq's, it is actually the location of Toronto Pearson International Airport, is the 6th largest municipality in Canada and is more dense than San Jose yet it will forever be seen as a 'suburb' of Toronto. Personally, I would never pit it against Vancouver or Sydney lol - i'd pit it against San Jose
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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It says 516 people but it also says 60% sleep in rough places (unsheltered), 23% stay in temporary and crisis accomodation while in Vancouver there are 539 unsheltered homeless and concentred in one particular place which makes this issue worse.
It's not a a contest. The purpose of the post was to point out to you that percentage wise the City of Sydney has just as much, or more, of a homeless issue, as Vancouver.

Just because Vancouver's is concentrated doesn't make it worse, just more visible.

Anyway, this thread isn't about Sydney.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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[quote=the topper;51747179]Yes, Downtown SJ is way better. What does Downtown SJ lack? water? then yeah. It has Guadalupe river park with trails just like your bay park trails.[/QUOTE]

Bay park trails? That statement alone shows me you either haven't been to Vancouver or actually know anything about it.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Most of the urban part of city is fairly dense. Coyote Valley is a beautiful open space with wilderness and farmlands. There's a cute cluster of homes and a neighborhood in the middle of rural valley.
The aerial shots of the two cities show otherwise. You should also note, that in the aerial photo of Vancouver, the vast majority of those towers are residential.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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Yes, Downtown SJ is way better. What does Downtown SJ lack? water? then yeah. It has Guadalupe river park with trails just like your bay park trails.[/QUOTE]

Bay park trails? That statement alone shows me you either haven't been to Vancouver or actually know anything about it.
Granville Public Market is on Granville Island. The science museum is on east side of the bay from downtown. Did like Broadway/Commercial, about 1 1/2 mile east of downtown. Olympic village is just to the south of downtown. Like strolling restaurants/cafe's in West End. How about those silly palm trees on English Bay? Never been? Granville Mall-meh.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Granville Public Market is on Granville Island. The science museum is on east side of the bay from downtown. Did like Broadway/Commercial, about 1 1/2 mile east of downtown. Olympic village is just to the south of downtown. Like strolling restaurants/cafe's in West End. How about those silly palm trees on English Bay? Never been? Granville Mall-meh.
A map can tell you all that.

Strolling restaurants/cafes in the West End? Ya, you've been here.

Seriously if you have, you didn't absorb much. Saying just what you have about Vancouver, would be like me saying I loved the seawall in San Jose.
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Old 04-29-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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A map can tell you all that.

Strolling restaurants/cafes in the West End? Ya, you've been here.

Seriously if you have, you didn't absorb much. Saying just what you have about Vancouver, would be like me saying I loved the seawall in San Jose.
do like the well developed bike trail, green grass strip and pedestrian trail where ever there's waterfront all over central Vancouver: aka Yaletown, downtown and West End. Yaletown is ok. I ordered a cheap slice of pizza there. Went to farmer's market.
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Old 04-29-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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Great post and information/background! I'm not even judging San Jose for this either. It is entirely understandable. San Jose kind of reminds me of the Toronto/GTA equivalent of Mississauga. It is its own city and grew unbelievable fast, Is home to many regional and even international Canadian Hq's, it is actually the location of Toronto Pearson International Airport, is the 6th largest municipality in Canada and is more dense than San Jose yet it will forever be seen as a 'suburb' of Toronto. Personally, I would never pit it against Vancouver or Sydney lol - i'd pit it against San Jose
Very telling: didn't know Missiissauga has 721,000 people. This city is completely shun by Toronto outright. San Jose is well over 1 million with a great CBD and airport. Don't forget Sharks, its hockey team and nickname: Capital of Silicon Valley. Sure, I would pit it against any city there is.
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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do like the well developed bike trail, green grass strip and pedestrian trail where ever there's waterfront all over central Vancouver: aka Yaletown, downtown and West End. Yaletown is ok. I ordered a cheap slice of pizza there. Went to farmer's market.
ha ha ha, now, you're convinced!!!
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