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Old 06-03-2018, 11:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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If you are going to go along those lines then all the states in the US will need to be looked at as separate unique countries, since state and country are pretty much synonyms of one another.

State: a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.
"Germany, Italy, and other European states"

Country: a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.
"the country's increasingly precarious economic position"

So the United "States" of America can be interpreted as the United "Countries" of America, which is what it was originally envisioned as. The thirteen colonies were supposed to be separate from one another only forming a loose coalition with one another similar to the EU or the Commonwealth of Nations, In fact the EU is probably more united as a single entity than the US was in it's early days.
Very well stated! +1
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Old 06-03-2018, 11:25 PM
 
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If you are going to go along those lines then all the states in the US will need to be looked at as separate unique countries, since state and country are pretty much synonyms of one another.

State: a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.
"Germany, Italy, and other European states"

Country: a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.
"the country's increasingly precarious economic position"

So the United "States" of America can be interpreted as the United "Countries" of America, which is what it was originally envisioned as. The thirteen colonies were supposed to be separate from one another only forming a loose coalition with one another similar to the EU or the Commonwealth of Nations, In fact the EU is probably more united as a single entity than the US was in it's early days.
I have to disagree. The 50 states and Quebec form an integral part of the United States and Canada respectively, but Puerto Rico and Greenland are external territories. You should read more about them here. They do have special status: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depe...ry?wprov=sfti1
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I have to disagree. The 50 states and Quebec form an integral part of the United States and Canada respectively, but Puerto Rico and Greenland are external territories. You should read more about them here. They do have special status: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depe...ry?wprov=sfti1
Yes they have a special status, but they are still part of their respective countries. You have a case for Greenland in someway since they are on a trajectory of independence, but Puerto Rico is in a weird limbo land. Furthermore if you are going to count Puerto Rico and Greenland, then you most definitely have to count Native American reservations who many of which have treaties with the US.
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:01 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Yes they have a special status, but they are still part of their respective countries. You have a case for Greenland in someway since they are on a trajectory of independence, but Puerto Rico is in a weird limbo land. Furthermore if you are going to count Puerto Rico and Greenland, then you most definitely have to count Native American reservations who many of which have treaties with the US.
Exactly. Those reservations have more autonomy than PR does.
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Old 06-04-2018, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Kansas/China
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Yes they have a special status, but they are still part of their respective countries. You have a case for Greenland in someway since they are on a trajectory of independence, but Puerto Rico is in a weird limbo land. Furthermore if you are going to count Puerto Rico and Greenland, then you most definitely have to count Native American reservations who many of which have treaties with the US.
Greenland is a country under the sovereign nation of Denmark. It is self ruled. The same is not true with Quebec and Puerto Rico which both operate under a federal government.

Greenlands counterpart in the US would be Micronesia which is a country in free association with the US. Canada has nothing similar. There are no countries within Canada.
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Manila
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With the Castro Brothers on their way out (Fidel already kicked the bucket, and Raul well on his way there due to advanced age), Cuba WILL become a very important player again with all the major countries trying to win over the post-Castro government, and of course the Cuban people! In terms of significance in the continent, only the NAFTA Trio will outstrip it!
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Old 06-04-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Greenland is a country under the sovereign nation of Denmark. It is self ruled. The same is not true with Quebec and Puerto Rico which both operate under a federal government.

Greenlands counterpart in the US would be Micronesia which is a country in free association with the US. Canada has nothing similar. There are no countries within Canada.
I think this only applies to the Northern Mariana Islands.
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Old 06-04-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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It's not a slam dunk choice but I'd still vote for Cuba.
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:19 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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North America actually comprises of 47 countries/territories, but the whole continent is heavily dominated by just 3 nations being Canada, Mexico and the United States. Which country do you think is overall the “4th” most prominent country in North America?

In terms of population, Guatemala is 4th.
In terms of land area, Greenland is bigger than Mexico.
In terms of GDP (nominal), Puerto Rico is 4th.
In terms of GDP (PPP), Cuba is 4th.

Overall I would say Cuba.
I agree with you and some of the others, it could very well be Cuba. But Cuba and none of the Central American counties; Guatemala, Honduras, Belize, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama) really stand out for sure.

The argument about Puerto Rico, Quebec and Greenland being "countries" is interesting. You can say they are countries within a country. But then again, you can say the same about US states or other nations like Britain or Germany. One thing is for use, even if Greenland is considered a country, its population is too small and its position too remote to make it the "4th most prominent country in North America".
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Puerto Rico Not a country

Quebec Not a country

Greenland Not a country


In terms of displays of geographical knowledge, this thread is very disappointing.


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As expected.
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