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Old 06-04-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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Cuba has the oldest population in Latin america, you dont develop a country full of old people. My money is on DR and Panama.
those 2 countries have the fastest growing economies not only in north america but Latin america a whole. They have averaged 6% for more than a decade.
DR is leading in tourism and mining and Panama in finances and logistics. Cuba is all hype, with a population averaging 40 years of age, an obsolete infrastructure, an stagnated economy, it will take them a century to be in the game.

That got demonstrated that the hype dint pay when all US airlines rushed to offer multiple flights to Cuba during the Obama administration just to have to cancel most of them due to low ridership. Cuba is not as attractive as people might think.

Panama and DR will be the fastest growing economies in LaTam this year also.

Cuba was for 3 decades the beacon of human development in Latin america, with a solid Educational and health system. But all other countries have made great improvements in recent years. Today Cuba is just an average country in human development. Currently Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica, Bahamas, Barbados, Uruguay, Panama, Antigua & Barbuda and Trinidad score higher than Cuba in Human development. And lest not talk about economic growth.

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Old 06-05-2018, 05:04 AM
 
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With the Castro Brothers on their way out (Fidel already kicked the bucket, and Raul well on his way there due to advanced age), Cuba WILL become a very important player again with all the major countries trying to win over the post-Castro government, and of course the Cuban people! In terms of significance in the continent, only the NAFTA Trio will outstrip it!


Cuba was one of the first economies in Latin America....but that was 60 years ago.

Still retains some of the former glory and can't be compared with any neighbouring country, but it will take a century to get rid of Castro's legacy and the military ensemble. After Raul will come another, his grandson or whatever.

Plus, anybody with over one brain cell has left the country over the last 60 years. It will take many years. The worst effect has been on people, but indeed, no comparison.

Indeed, the fourth place.
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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I think this only applies to the Northern Mariana Islands.
The Northern Mariana Islands are a full US territory like Guam and Puerto Rico, none of them are self-ruled. Micronesia is self-ruled, they are a country in association with the US. Greenland is self-ruled like Micronesia, but they still retain Danish citizenship unlike Micronesians who don’t have US citizenship, but are allowed complete access to the US just like any citizen or permanent resident.
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Cuba has the oldest population in Latin america, you dont develop a country full of old people. My money is on DR and Panama.
those 2 countries have the fastest growing economies not only in north america but Latin america a whole. They have averaged 6% for more than a decade.
DR is leading in tourism and mining and Panama in finances and logistics. Cuba is all hype, with a population averaging 40 years of age, an obsolete infrastructure, an stagnated economy, it will take them a century to be in the game.

That got demonstrated that the hype dint pay when all US airlines rushed to offer multiple flights to Cuba during the Obama administration just to have to cancel most of them due to low ridership. Cuba is not as attractive as people might think.

Panama and DR will be the fastest growing economies in LaTam this year also.

Cuba was for 3 decades the beacon of human development in Latin america, with a solid Educational and health system. But all other countries have made great improvements in recent years. Today Cuba is just an average country in human development. Currently Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica, Bahamas, Barbados, Uruguay, Panama, Antigua & Barbuda and Trinidad score higher than Cuba in Human development. And lest not talk about economic growth.
You could look at the other way and say that Cuba having an older population is a good thing. For one thing, it might mean that the country has better health care or takes care of its population better then other countries in the western hemisphere. Better educated people tend to have less children, so the population ages.

You can also say that when countries have a much younger population, it could be a sign of rapidly growing population because of poverty and lack of education.
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The Northern Mariana Islands are a full US territory like Guam and Puerto Rico, none of them are self-ruled. Micronesia is self-ruled, they are a country in association with the US. Greenland is self-ruled like Micronesia, but they still retain Danish citizenship unlike Micronesians who don’t have US citizenship, but are allowed complete access to the US just like any citizen or permanent resident.
Ok, thanks I never knew that. Don't hear much about Micronesia.
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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Good question op. Without looking at any other answers I would say most likely Cuba or Panama. Upon looking up some stats, Cuba appears to be the correct answer.
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Old 06-06-2018, 07:45 AM
 
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You could look at the other way and say that Cuba having an older population is a good thing. For one thing, it might mean that the country has better health care or takes care of its population better then other countries in the western hemisphere. Better educated people tend to have less children, so the population ages.

You can also say that when countries have a much younger population, it could be a sign of rapidly growing population because of poverty and lack of education.
But the thing is thats not true at all, fertility rate are normal in the Caribbean with the expedition of Haiti, DR is 2.4 and Jamaica 2.1, thats what is considered healthy. Cuba with a 1.6 is way below replacement due to economics hardships not "education". Cuba has an older population due to the high emigration of it young people, just like PR and now Venezuela.
The whole Spanish Caribbean with the exception of DR is going trough very hard times. PR is broke and losing population, Cuba is stagnant and losing population, Venezuela just lost over one million people. And you are talking about Cuba? seems that all that Castro propaganda did sink deep on peoples minds.

The English Caribbean is drowning in debt, just Panama, Costa Rica and RD are doing fine. Panama is the fastest growing economy in the continent, DR is Second, Costa Rica 3rd. DR is currently the largest economy in the Caribbean and Central America.

And as I said before, all the statistics about Cuba's human development were true 60 years ago, today is just an average country. Stop repeating the cold war propaganda.
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Old 06-07-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: YYJ - YVR
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Panama for me due to the canal and its increasing significance on the world economy and trade. I've been to Cuba and it looked like it was stuck in time and in a bit of a rut that it has a hard time shaking off. Panama has a lot of upside and future growth potential.

Lol @ the complete ignorance and sheer idiocy in the people suggesting Quebec. It's not even "disputed sovereignty". Abkhazia has more recognition as an independent entity than Quebec. Catalonia has more attention. Northern Ireland has more international participation. This is as stupid as saying Texas is the 3rd most prominent country by GDP in North America.

Puerto Rico has some international representation...primarily in sports. Greenland may declare independence someday. These are entities actually listed in some organizations' rankings. Quebec is never on anything.
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Old 06-07-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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Panama for me due to the canal and its increasing significance on the world economy and trade. I've been to Cuba and it looked like it was stuck in time and in a bit of a rut that it has a hard time shaking off. Panama has a lot of upside and future growth potential.

Lol @ the complete ignorance and sheer idiocy in the people suggesting Quebec. It's not even "disputed sovereignty". Abkhazia has more recognition as an independent entity than Quebec. Catalonia has more attention. Northern Ireland has more international participation. This is as stupid as saying Texas is the 3rd most prominent country by GDP in North America.

Puerto Rico has some international representation...primarily in sports. Greenland may declare independence someday. These are entities actually listed in some organizations' rankings. Quebec is never on anything.
The OP ask for importance and Panama and its canal is hard to beat. The panama canal is maybe the single most important piece of infrastructure in Latin America. a quick look at history will reveal how important the canal is for the USA and the worlds economy and the lengths the US went to protected. Cuba on the other side is basically un-important only when they attempted to allow the Russians to set nukes there they gained some relevance. The USA has showed no interest in Cuba. That would have never happened in Panama. the second Noriega started messing around the US invaded the country and removed him.

The irrelevance of Cuba has been Castros shelter for decades.

Cuba enjoined lot of importance during the Spanish Empire due to its huge protected harbor right on the gulf stream, basically a conveyor belt to Europe. but no one uses sail boats to move cargo anymore and its geographic location became irrelevant until the missile crisis. Now its back to irrelevancy again.

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Old 06-07-2018, 10:05 PM
 
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But the thing is thats not true at all, fertility rate are normal in the Caribbean with the expedition of Haiti, DR is 2.4 and Jamaica 2.1, thats what is considered healthy. Cuba with a 1.6 is way below replacement due to economics hardships not "education". Cuba has an older population due to the high emigration of it young people, just like PR and now Venezuela.
The whole Spanish Caribbean with the exception of DR is going trough very hard times. PR is broke and losing population, Cuba is stagnant and losing population, Venezuela just lost over one million people. And you are talking about Cuba? seems that all that Castro propaganda did sink deep on peoples minds.

The English Caribbean is drowning in debt, just Panama, Costa Rica and RD are doing fine. Panama is the fastest growing economy in the continent, DR is Second, Costa Rica 3rd. DR is currently the largest economy in the Caribbean and Central America.

And as I said before, all the statistics about Cuba's human development were true 60 years ago, today is just an average country. Stop repeating the cold war propaganda.
The question from the OP is which country is 4th now, not in 30 years.

From 2013 to 2015 the DR gdp went from $61 billion to $68 billion. Cuba went from $77 billion to $87 billion. Panama is $56 billion.
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