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View Poll Results: Which of the 25 biggest emerging/developing countries have the brightest/most promising future?
China 24 52.17%
India 11 23.91%
Russia 5 10.87%
Brazil 4 8.70%
Indonesia 5 10.87%
South Korea 16 34.78%
Mexico 11 23.91%
Turkey 4 8.70%
Saudi Arabia 4 8.70%
Argentina 4 8.70%
South Africa 1 2.17%
Iran 2 4.35%
Poland 16 34.78%
Thailand 5 10.87%
Nigeria 4 8.70%
Egypt 2 4.35%
Pakistan 2 4.35%
Malaysia 12 26.09%
Philippines 5 10.87%
United Arab Emirates 7 15.22%
Colombia 4 8.70%
Bangladesh 2 4.35%
Vietname 10 21.74%
Venezuela 1 2.17%
Iraq 3 6.52%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-03-2018, 04:39 AM
 
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I think China`s economic future is very precarious but unlike most of the other countries, China`s day of reckoning will not be due to economic reasons but rather political ones.

China is the largest military dictatorship on the planet and it`s obscene human rights abuses are a reflection of that. China is essentially the world`s largest prison. Yes compared to the squalor of the prison cells people had to live in 40 years ago, things have materially improved greatly. The prisoners now have enough to eat, running water, smartphones, cable TV, and their own private cells. They are living in a much pretty cell but it`s a prison cell nonetheless. As those prisoners become more educated and want more privileges, the warden will balk and the prisoners will revolt and nothing is more devesting to an institution that prison riot.


China is a militarily state run economy and when the people have had enough of Bejing's heavy hand the state will fall and so hence will the entire state established economy. China over the very long term will do well but it will come with a devastating economic and financial collapse and they will have to rebuild their economic, financial, governmental, political, and social institutions from the ground up.
A prime example of the western media propaganda, that the Chinese are longing to breathe the air of freedom, unshackle themselves from the joke of the military, longing for the western freedom.

China is not an open-air Gulag as you describe it. It bears a great deal of personal liberty as long as you don't cause a deal. Enforcement is not strong in China, you know. Unless you want to overthrow the governing party in China, you're basically free to do and say how you please, no police firing squadron will decent onto you. And that's most Chinese to you. Majority of the people don't want to overthrow the current government but to peacefully develop their economic wellbeing.
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Old 07-03-2018, 09:34 PM
 
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I think just about everyone agrees with China. Also, as many have said it doesn't seem to be that South Korea should be considered a developing country. Outside of those I mentioned

India & Poland

Southeast Asia is probably going to do well too.
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Old 07-04-2018, 06:33 AM
 
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With the state of things at present probably none. South Korea is well advanced and likely to continue due to sheer audacity and willingness to sacrifice for the greater good. But it comes at quite a price. Quite a lot of superficial constraints now at play and competition second to probably none. Is that something to emulate?


Probably a measurement of personal happiness a better decider.
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Old 07-04-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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I think just about everyone agrees with China. Also, as many have said it doesn't seem to be that South Korea should be considered a developing country. Outside of those I mentioned

India & Poland

Southeast Asia is probably going to do well too.
Well perhaps, but a nation not without some severe problems on the economic front. Expensive housing and poor environmental conditions.


Still many leave to live in 'greener' pastures if able. As with most developing countries.


Malaysia, well on the way to developed status, with an increasingly content population, now government has changed, would be a possible pick of mine.


Chile, there last year, some potential, but still a lot of issues to overcome. India, well some improvements, but massive poverty and attitude struggles to overcome, as well as infrastructure and social division.
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Old 07-04-2018, 06:46 AM
 
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A prime example of the western media propaganda, that the Chinese are longing to breathe the air of freedom, unshackle themselves from the joke of the military, longing for the western freedom.

China is not an open-air Gulag as you describe it. It bears a great deal of personal liberty as long as you don't cause a deal. Enforcement is not strong in China, you know. Unless you want to overthrow the governing party in China, you're basically free to do and say how you please, no police firing squadron will decent onto you. And that's most Chinese to you. Majority of the people don't want to overthrow the current government but to peacefully develop their economic wellbeing.
As long as system delivers. The 'get rich is glorious' sentiment, may become harder to obtain in the future.
The state remains controlling. Not only in the over throw of government /challenge to power, but daily interference in everyday life in matters that would not be tolerated, or less likely in the west.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:10 PM
 
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In no way South Korea is a "developing" country nowadays. It is already a full developed country and even amongst the advanced economies it does very well.

Amongst other countries, this list has countries with very distinct mindsets, very distinct histories and very distincts cultural backgrounds. I can talk for Latin America because it's the region where I live: Argentina was a full developed country in the past, but it now struggles with social issues typical of the third world, and an even more dramatic fall was in the case of Venezuela, which until the 1970s had the highest per capita income in Latin America and nowadays much of the population (if not most) suffer with famine and shortages, like most of Africa. In the case of Brazil, it would be certainly one of the wealthiest country of the world if brazilians stop believing in the miracles promised by populist politicians. By contrast, Chile is already classified as a full developed country by some agencies and Colombia is quickly and consistently improving its situation, tending to be in the first world before of Brazil and Mexico. Paraguay, believe or not, is also doing well in the most recent years.

Iran and India have many issues and I don't believe that they will become a developed country in the foreseeable future. China cannot be compared to developing nor to full developed countries because it has a distinct model of development. UAE, Saudi Arabia and Qatar - maybe Malaysia and Singapore too - would easily be classified as full developed countries based only on economic criteria, but their legal system are medieval, inflicting the capital punishment for things that in the western societies are not even considered crime. Like China, think they are in their own lane in the development road.
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Old 07-05-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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South Korea UAE and Poland have already arrived IMO. Brazil and Nigeria have potential. China needs a less authoritarian government.
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Old 07-05-2018, 07:33 PM
 
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Colombia is quickly and consistently improving its situation, tending to be in the first world before of Brazil and Mexico.

Not really.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:19 PM
 
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Being in Colombia last year, and although rather liking it a lot, I cannot see over coming the vast social divisions within society or indeed entering the so termed first world anytime soon.


Brazil has long been put forward as a candidate, going back decades. It remains still rather far from developed status, regardless of the numerous tall buildings that from a distance give the impression of developed status. A country with potential but so many problems.


The issue around crime and over coming that alone is more than enough to prevent any change of status anytime soon. Then corruption and massive social depravation come into play.


I suggest it is hard for any developing country to advance to levels once possible by nations like Singapore and South Korea in present times.
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Old 07-06-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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A prime example of the western media propaganda, that the Chinese are longing to breathe the air of freedom, unshackle themselves from the joke of the military, longing for the western freedom.

China is not an open-air Gulag as you describe it. It bears a great deal of personal liberty as long as you don't cause a deal. Enforcement is not strong in China, you know. Unless you want to overthrow the governing party in China, you're basically free to do and say how you please, no police firing squadron will decent onto you. And that's most Chinese to you. Majority of the people don't want to overthrow the current government but to peacefully develop their economic wellbeing.
China is by no means an "open-air Gulag" as you're calling it, but there are far more restrictions in place than those you mentioned. Access to media is severely restricted, and I'm not just talking about news, but things like movies, music and other forms of entertainment. The sale of video game consoles was barred for well over a decade.

When Metallica played in Shanghai, their setlist had to be approved by the governing body. They were barred from playing the song Master of Puppets because the government feared that the song might entice the audience to start questioning their authority. That's despite the fact that the song is about drugs and has no political leaning.
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