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Old 07-26-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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If your confused then allow me to elaborate. There are many nations with a higher number of 'foreign born' living within their midst than found in USA.


USA has something like 14.5% of population non USA born. Only 1% more than UK, but behind Australia at 28% Canada and Germany.
Saudi Arabia and a host of Gulf states actually lead the pack and small nations like Liechtenstein and Andorra and Monaco.


Funny old world.
Monaco, Liechtenstein and Andorra foreign born residents I would guess are wealthy people from other EU states.

Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states have basically refused to take any refuges from Iraq and Syria and they even share a language, religion and culture for the most part. Foreign born people in the Gulf State are mostly Indian and East Asians that are treated like slaves. I.E. The thousands of Indian workers dying building World Cup Stadiums in Qatar, or the Filipino girl they found in a Kuwaiti freezer. The foreign born population can also never become a Saudi, Emerati, Qatari, Bahraini or Kuwaiti citizen.
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Old 07-27-2018, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Macao
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It seems that the US tends to get criticized the most by the global media and governments for their immigration policy,, despite taking in a million people each year. I don’t understand why though? Why does the world feel like it’s americ’s obligation to take in all of the world’s population. Why do people feel like they deserve to live here?
That's an American-centric statement. Pretty much every wealthy nation has the same world rhetoric from Australia to Japan to Germany.
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Old 07-27-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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Monaco, Liechtenstein and Andorra foreign born residents I would guess are wealthy people from other EU states.

Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states have basically refused to take any refuges from Iraq and Syria and they even share a language, religion and culture for the most part. Foreign born people in the Gulf State are mostly Indian and East Asians that are treated like slaves. I.E. The thousands of Indian workers dying building World Cup Stadiums in Qatar, or the Filipino girl they found in a Kuwaiti freezer. The foreign born population can also never become a Saudi, Emerati, Qatari, Bahraini or Kuwaiti citizen.
How do you know Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States have refused to take any refugees from Iraq and Syria? Did you check the sources?

How do you explain this?
There are 2 million to 3 million Syrians in the Gulf countries, many of whom arrived since the war began, but they are not considered refugees and they are not part of the UNHCR statistics. They are classified as “Arab brothers and sisters in distress” instead of refugees covered by UN treaties. Even though, according to UNHCR officials, only in Saudi Arabia, there were 500,000 Syrian refugees in September 2015.

The government of Saudi Arabia has stated that, since the Syrian conflict began in 2011, it has hosted 2.5 million refugees and has given permanent residency to hundreds of thousands of Syrians. According to Saudi officials, the kingdom „was keen to not deal with them as refugees, or to put them in refugee camps, to preserve their dignity and safety, and gave them complete freedom of movement.” Saudi Arabia also says it has given Syrians access to work, free medical care and education. Over 100,000 Syrian students were being educated in Saudi schools.
https://www.opensourceinvestigations...myth-debunked/
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Old 07-27-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Pretty much every wealthy nation has the same world rhetoric from Australia to Japan to Germany.
Except that the U.S. is the only wealthy nation that has grown by 120 million people in the last 50 years.

And it is not only because Americans are having sex like rabbits.
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Old 07-27-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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This article explains the case https://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvi...b_8175924.html

The Syrian and Iraqi refugees are not counted in Saudi Arabia or the Gulf states because UNHCR counts refugees by noting only those “persons recognized as refugees under the 1951 UN Convention/1967 Protocol, the 1969 OAU Convention, in accordance with the UNHCR Statute, persons granted a complementary form of protection and those granted temporary protection.“ Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE are not parties to any of the UN protocols on refugees, and so through this technicality, they, along with most of their refugees, are excluded from many refugee counting mechanisms.
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Old 07-29-2018, 04:47 PM
 
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This article explains the case https://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvi...b_8175924.html

The Syrian and Iraqi refugees are not counted in Saudi Arabia or the Gulf states because UNHCR counts refugees by noting only those “persons recognized as refugees under the 1951 UN Convention/1967 Protocol, the 1969 OAU Convention, in accordance with the UNHCR Statute, persons granted a complementary form of protection and those granted temporary protection.“ Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE are not parties to any of the UN protocols on refugees, and so through this technicality, they, along with most of their refugees, are excluded from many refugee counting mechanisms.
Honestly how do we know they're there? I have 100,000 refugees in my living room because I don't recognize the 1951 or 67 convention.
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Old 07-29-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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Honestly how do we know they're there? I have 100,000 refugees in my living room because I don't recognize the 1951 or 67 convention.
Well, most people that live in the Gulf states are non-citizens. Immigration is a high topic among the Gulf states as after all the Native people there are very a much a minority in their own country. You live in the USA, and never in the USA as a nation history has foreigners ever outnumbered American citizens so it is very different perspective there. Even so, here is the latest statement from the UAE about Syrian refugees https://www.khaleejtimes.com/news/go...r-hit-expats--
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:23 AM
 
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You think this all started with the Iraq War??

European nations have been f---ing with the Middle East for centuries, up to and including the 21st! Not to mention the necessitation of Israel due to Europeans trying to destroy and/or ghetto-ize them for the last 1,000 years.
1) Until 1919 the Middle East had been under the aegis of the Ottoman Empire
2) From 1920s until the 1950s FRANCE and the UK imposed protectorates upon the area
Care to explain how European "nations" have been meddling for "centuries" and "Europeans" trying to destroy Jews?
Perhaps it may come to you as a surprise but Europe includes almost 500 million people speaking dozens of different languages and with different cultures, Europe is not a single country nor are Europeans.
And yes, the Iraq War was a mess the US started on their own and which did irreparable damage to area: add to this all the US interference in the area and then you have the solution.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Forest bathing
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You dhould take in more....if Canada takes in 400,000....USA should take in 4 million
Where are these 4 million going to live and work? Our cities are crowded, the infrastructures are crumbling, the west is on fire and drought is imminent. Please do not suggest towns that are losing population. There is a reason: no jobs. Ask the locals in these towns what they think. It changes the entire demographics. And, American taxpayers are tired of subsidizing other countries’ poor. We do not want to be like China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India. I don’t think Canadians want that many poor, either. The solution is to help them in their own countries and to quit having 5 children per female.
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