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07-06-2018, 08:25 AM
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It seems that the US tends to get criticized the most by the global media and governments for their immigration policy,, despite taking in a million people each year. I don’t understand why though? Why does the world feel like it’s americ’s obligation to take in all of the world’s population. Why do people feel like they deserve to live here?
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07-06-2018, 03:56 PM
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I can reassure you that the USA is not the only country faced with that situation.
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07-06-2018, 04:23 PM
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What???
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07-06-2018, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by philopower
It seems that the US tends to get criticized the most by the global media and governments for their immigration policy,, despite taking in a million people each year. I don’t understand why though? Why does the world feel like it’s americ’s obligation to take in all of the world’s population. Why do people feel like they deserve to live here?
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The world thinks nothing of the sort. |
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07-06-2018, 04:54 PM
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An odd question to say the least. The question should be reframed and ask why do poor people amongst others seek entry into USA?
The answer to that should be all too obvious. The USA geographical position in the world, being an obvious magnet to poorer folk south of the border . Its history as a migrant nation. The fact that large communities from various nations are already in place, creates a 'pull' factor. Probably the fact that America has not been beyond using immigration as a political enticement of sorts either. Especially in the area of Cuban exiles in previous times.
The use of cheap labour, has of course been an enticement to take in poor immigrants.
What the world expects is for America to be a trustworthy and responsible world citizen. There is no feeling it has an obligation to take in all the worlds population, beyond possibly its share of those fleeing persecution.
It may be of interest that the USA does not come first or second, even third in the number of non born American residents living in America.
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07-06-2018, 05:21 PM
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An odd question to say the least. The question should be reframed and ask why do poor people amongst others seek entry into USA?
The answer to that should be all too obvious. The USA geographical position in the world, being an obvious magnet to poorer folk south of the border . Its history as a migrant nation. The fact that large communities from various nations are already in place, creates a 'pull' factor. Probably the fact that America has not been beyond using immigration as a political enticement of sorts either. Especially in the area of Cuban exiles in previous times.
The use of cheap labour, has of course been an enticement to take in poor immigrants.
What the world expects is for America to be a trustworthy and responsible world citizen. There is no feeling it has an obligation to take in all the worlds population, beyond possibly its share of those fleeing persecution.
It may be of interest that the USA does not come first or second, even third in the number of non born American residents living in America.
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07-07-2018, 03:54 AM
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If your confused then allow me to elaborate. There are many nations with a higher number of 'foreign born' living within their midst than found in USA.
USA has something like 14.5% of population non USA born. Only 1% more than UK, but behind Australia at 28% Canada and Germany.
Saudi Arabia and a host of Gulf states actually lead the pack and small nations like Liechtenstein and Andorra and Monaco.
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07-07-2018, 04:00 AM
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If your confused then allow me to elaborate. There are many nations with a higher number of 'foreign born' living within their midst than found in USA.
USA has something like 14.5% of population non USA born. Only 1% more than UK, but behind Australia at 28% Canada and Germany.
Saudi Arabia and a host of Gulf states actually lead the pack and small nations like Liechtenstein and Andorra and Monaco.
Funny old world.
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Mind you, Australia is not taking in many of the poor of the world these days. Our migrants are in the whole, highly skilled and highly educated. I believe we are one of the few countries where the children of our immigrants academically outperform the local born.
No, the poor may seek entry to the US, Europe and the rest of the first world countries but no-one would seriously expect any country to take the lot. |
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07-07-2018, 05:28 AM
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Mind you, Australia is not taking in many of the poor of the world these days. Our migrants are in the whole, highly skilled and highly educated. I believe we are one of the few countries where the children of our immigrants academically outperform the local born.
No, the poor may seek entry to the US, Europe and the rest of the first world countries but no-one would seriously expect any country to take the lot.
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Well no in theory. Australia running at near record immigration though is certainly importing loads of people whom while may be professionals on paper, do not, and quite possibly will never enter their field of qualification. Hence often, too often shafted down to lower levels of semi skilled employment, which through no fault of their own, obviously impacts on local born entry/semi/un/skilled positions.
Australia has indeed been running a program not in the interests of Australian workers necessary, but certainly cheered on by business of various hues.
One only has to look at less 'desirable' outer burbs in most Australian cities to ascertain the massive increase in migrant numbers between 2011 and 2016 as per census.
I'm sure you are aware of suggestions that this generation will be the first that experience lower living standards than their parents.
No one expects any nation to take on the worlds poor. Obviously. Of course the neoliberal economic ideal over recent decades was supposed to see help eradicate poverty. Not see jobs disappearing to low pay economies, while their population in turn flees to lands business fled from to create greater wealth.
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07-07-2018, 05:44 AM
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Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by philopower
It seems that the US tends to get criticized the most by the global media and governments for their immigration policy,, despite taking in a million people each year. I don’t understand why though? Why does the world feel like it’s americ’s obligation to take in all of the world’s population. Why do people feel like they deserve to live here?
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You dhould take in more....if Canada takes in 400,000....USA should take in 4 million  |
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