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Old 08-16-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Sacré bleu!

I wouldn't think of it!

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...ion-180967868/

*hiccup*

Still, not a country.
But it's still a part of France, it would be like saying that Russia is not part of Asia because Siberia is not a country.

Also you didn't mention Greenland/Denmark in your list.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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But it's still a part of France, it would be like saying that Russia is not part of Asia because Siberia is not a country.
Okay, but this is a list of countries.

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Also you didn't mention Greenland/Denmark in your list.
True. I'm happy to include Greenland. Make it 24.

However (from Wikipedia), keep in mind:

"Though physiographically a part of the continent of North America, Greenland has been politically and culturally associated with Europe (specifically Norway and Denmark, the colonial powers, as well as the nearby island of Iceland) for more than a millennium."


Thanks for making me learn something!
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:28 AM
 
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Okay, but this is a list of countries.



True. I'm happy to include Greenland. Make it 24.

However (from Wikipedia), keep in mind:

"Though physiographically a part of the continent of North America, Greenland has been politically and culturally associated with Europe (specifically Norway and Denmark, the colonial powers, as well as the nearby island of Iceland) for more than a millennium."


Thanks for making me learn something!
But France/UK/Netherlands/Denmark are countries and they own /control/administer land in North America just like Russia does in Asia or Turkey does in Europe. These are transcontinental countries.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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But France/UK/Netherlands/Denmark are countries and they own /control/administer land in North America just like Russia does in Asia or Turkey does in Europe. These are transcontinental countries.
So many questions!

What about Bajo Nuevo Bank, an unincorporated unorganized territory of the United States, uninhabited and disputed by three other nations?

Not to mention Navassa Island and Serranilla Bank.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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So many questions!

What about Bajo Nuevo Bank, an unincorporated unorganized territory of the United States, uninhabited and disputed by three other nations?

Not to mention Navassa Island and Serranilla Bank.
Interesting, I didn't know that Columbia controlled an archipelago off the coast of Nicaragua, so I guess Colombia should be included too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archip...Santa_Catalina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_An..._y_Providencia
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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Interesting, I didn't know that Columbia controlled an archipelago off the coast of Nicaragua, so I guess Colombia should be included too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archip...Santa_Catalina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_An..._y_Providencia
If we entertain your idea of including France (for example) in the Americas because they control territory here, they would appear in the lists of countries of two continents.

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Old 08-16-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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We're talking about countries that comprise the continent of North America.

Yes, and Sint Maarten is one of them. It is part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, in the same way that Scotland is a country that is part of the United Kingdom.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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If we entertain your idea of including France (for example) in the Americas because they control territory here, they would appear in the lists of countries of two continents.

Why would that be an issue, that already happens with a bunch of other transcontinental countries such as Russia, Turkey, Egypt, Kazakhstan etc.


Dark Blue: Contiguous transcontinental countries.
Blue: Non-contiguous transcontinental countries.
Light Blue: Countries whose transcontinental status depends on either the legal status of their claims or the definition of continental boundaries used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ntal_countries
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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If we entertain your idea of including France (for example) in the Americas because they control territory here, they would appear in the lists of countries of two continents.


Then it might be helpful to be more specific, by saying that there are 23 countries plus "X" number of territories in North America.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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Why would that be an issue, that already happens with a bunch of other transcontinental countries such as Russia, Turkey, Egypt, Kazakhstan etc.

Dark Blue: Contiguous transcontinental countries.
Blue: Non-contiguous transcontinental countries.
Light Blue: Countries whose transcontinental status depends on either the legal status of their claims or the definition of continental boundaries used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ntal_countries
Interesting point!
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