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Old 01-04-2019, 01:16 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I live in Boston area and the nearest Wal-Mart is like 30 miles away.
Even if you are from the Midwest, there are other supermarkets such as Meijer, HEB...
That’s funny, I looked on google maps and found about a dozen Walmarts in the Boston area.
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Ruth, I've never seen Russians *missing* Chinese- made goods ( which they consider subpar comparably to European goods.)
What I DO hear however quite often is that Russians are envious of Chinese who kept their Communist party around and that's why in their ( ignorant) opinion the capitalism in China turned out much better than in Russia. They are pointing at the expansion/improvement of infrastructure over there and growth of wealth among the population.
Little do they know that the major factor here is not the "Communist party," but the fact that back in the nineties the US designated China for being its major workshop, and Russia - for gradual destruction.
People who had an opportunity to venture out into the world in the early 90's experienced the most shock. Chinese goods hadn't flooded Russia yet, not much, at that time. There was no awareness of the whole issue of cheap Chinese goods. Also, Chinese goods aren't the only ones on the market in SE Asia, not to mention Turkey, and other such countries that Russians were able to afford to vacation in, back then. But aside from manufactured goods, there's also the abundance in the grocery stores and markets, that's part of the "shock" factor. Russia still has problems with food production and distribution.
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:55 PM
 
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Thatís funny, I looked on google maps and found about a dozen Walmarts in the Boston area.
I don't know why you say that. Even within 20 miles of downtown Boston, there are not "a dozen" Walmarts, more like 4~5 of them.

Obviously you are not familiar with Boston. If you live in Newton, Waltham, Arlington, Lexington and so on (all residential towns), the nearest Wal-mart is at least 15 miles away. People don't go there every week.
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Old 01-04-2019, 02:27 PM
 
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The three world classification was originally proposed by Mao of China.

Under Mao’s definition back in 1970s:

First World: US and USSR, the two superpowers

Second World: developed rich countries such as Europe, Japan, Canada and Australia

Third World: all others, in his words Africa, Asia and Latin America

Mao did this for world class struggle theory so he could be the leader of majority. Now, the majority wants payments from China no one believes friendship.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Well Portugal IS at the bottom of first world. Eastern Europe, Greece, and Portugal are the bottom.
But Portugal has a higher life expectancy than the US. So do Costa Rica, Chile and Cuba. Does that count?
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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People who had an opportunity to venture out into the world in the early 90's experienced the most shock.

Of course they did, since this was the time when the curtain went down, plus by that time Russia was running low on everything, food including.



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Chinese goods hadn't flooded Russia yet, not much, at that time. There was no awareness of the whole issue of cheap Chinese goods.


At the beginning of the nineties China didn't have much to offer yet, but comparably to disaster that Russia was at that historic period...


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Also, Chinese goods aren't the only ones on the market in SE Asia, not to mention Turkey, and other such countries that Russians were able to afford to vacation in, back then.

Back when exactly? From what I remember, Russians en mass were able to vacation in those places only after Putin came in power and the price of oil went up. But by that time Russians were already raving about Spanish jamon and French cheeses that filled Russian stores - the European stuff Russians REALLY like.





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But aside from manufactured goods, there's also the abundance in the grocery stores and markets, that's part of the "shock" factor. Russia still has problems with food production and distribution.

I dunno Ruth, it's not the nineties any longer - far away from it.


( English subs are available.)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SCN_D9EfgQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP9YK0mMiuQ


Of course with sanctions and all, Russians went back to their local specialties - smoked fish, shashlyk and all, and it doesn't mean that they are craving Chinese food ( European foods - yes; there is still nostalgia for those ones from what I've noticed.)


Since you find interesting Asian parts of Russia, you might like this video - the Moscovites are checking out the farmer's market in Astakhan' - the groceries, the prices.



( No English subs here for those who'd like to watch it too, sorry)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaCjOm_aBfA&t=516s
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:54 PM
 
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I live in Boston area and the nearest Wal-Mart is like 30 miles away.
Even if you are from the Midwest, there are other supermarkets such as Meijer, HEB...

This was not my question ( how far do you live from the nearest Wal-Mart.) This is the book that might help you understand what I am talking about -


https://www.amazon.com/Wal-Mart-Effe.../dp/0143038788


or at least the short overview of this book


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wal-Mart_Effect


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That being said, made-in-China certainly changed America, but China does not only depend on US market. That is the logic.
If you visit Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia, you will see Chinese influences are there too. Americans tend to overestimate themselves.
At THIS point in time - of course China does not depend on the US market only. Of course you can see China more and more entrenched in international affairs.

I'd say the geniuses of Bentoville ( and not only) have dug America a grave.
Greed kills.
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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The three world classification was originally proposed by Mao of China.

Under Maoís definition back in 1970s:

First World: US and USSR, the two superpowers

Second World: developed rich countries such as Europe, Japan, Canada and Australia

Third World: all others, in his words Africa, Asia and Latin America

Mao did this for world class struggle theory so he could be the leader of majority. Now, the majority wants payments from China no one believes friendship.

Well he was wrong, because Russia was never a "first world country."
Russia in fact IS the ultimate second world country, for a reason that it shares common ground with both first world countries and third world countries.
Third world countries ( in the modern world) are usually not capable of developing independently their own space programs. On another hand first world countries don't run such rampant corruption and they are not dependent on foreign capital in their development.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:11 PM
 
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But Portugal has a higher life expectancy than the US. So do Costa Rica, Chile and Cuba. Does that count?



I don't think it really counts, lol.
This whole "life expectancy" depends on some hypothetical ideas, that apparently don't include the fact that certain ethnic groups have longer life span than other to begin with.

If "higher life expectancy" would have been a definite indicator of the "nation's wealth," these people would have been the wealthiest of them all.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9RJBgNB1ZI
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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G20 is the organisation for the 20 largest economies, not wealthy ones. It's also political since they have a handful of countries that are nowhere near top 20 in it because they need African representatives (South Africa and Nigeria) or some other bull**** reasons.
I donít know about South Africa but Nigeria is expected to be a top 20 world economy in 20 years and was already one in 2015 when it had 500 billion+ Dollars and over a Trillion in PPP economy.
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