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View Poll Results: More racially integrated?
U.S 36 53.73%
U.K 31 46.27%
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Old 02-08-2019, 08:22 AM
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Yes, the fact they have more of all groups doesn't necessarily mean they're most integrated.


These groups could all live in their own silos. (Not saying that they necessarily do...)
It typically takes three generations in the USA for the descendants of immigrants to be completely integrated and almost entirely stripped of their culture.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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It typically takes three generations in the USA for the descendants of immigrants to be completely integrated and almost entirely stripped of their culture.
But of course the question then becomes after around 15 generations were those who were brought over as slaves part of the integrated American culture or does the new culture of segregation become their culture? And it has only been since the 1960s that those who we can make easy physical identification of have really started becoming All American and not hypenated American in culture.

All that I know about UK race relations come from detective TV shows, and at least there they look no more or less integrated than the US during the last 15 years. In the time before US TV started showing random racially integrated romantic couples, perhaps the truest measure of social integration, we did not have the technology to access the arts of the world like we can now
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:01 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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But of course the question then becomes after around 15 generations were those who were brought over as slaves part of the integrated American culture or does the new culture of segregation become their culture?
When a race of people are forcibly brought into a country for the sole purpose of doing slave labor, I think it will take longer for them to integrate into the mainstream in future generations.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:15 AM
 
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The United Kingdom prevents lower-class, uneducated nonwhite people from immigrating to their country in large numbers.
If only this were actually true.
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Old 02-08-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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But of course the question then becomes after around 15 generations were those who were brought over as slaves part of the integrated American culture or does the new culture of segregation become their culture?
Both actually.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:03 PM
 
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They have started their own culture although a small amount of blacks have integrated into the founding American culture. However America is also not the agrarian country the founders wanted it be so the question is what exactly are people supposed to integrate to? The endless materialism and suburbs that make up current America?
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Old 02-09-2019, 12:43 AM
 
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They have started their own culture although a small amount of blacks have integrated into the founding American culture. However America is also not the agrarian country the founders wanted it be so the question is what exactly are people supposed to integrate to? The endless materialism and suburbs that make up current America?
Middle-class and upper-class black Americans are every bit as materialistic as white Americans.

People who are materialistic don't see themselves that way. They simply think it's normal.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:24 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Middle-class and upper-class black Americans are every bit as materialistic as white Americans.

People who are materialistic don't see themselves that way. They simply think it's normal.
This is very true. Some of my relatives are excellent American consumers and materialistic in every way.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: East Midlands, UK
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I've lived in both countries for a long period of time . I would say overall, the UK. But some US states are very racially integrated, while some are still not. I think the racism in the US is more tied to poverty, while in the UK it's anti Muslim and also directed towards eastern European migrants.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I've lived in both countries for a long period of time . I would say overall, the UK. But some US states are very racially integrated, while some are still not. I think the racism in the US is more tied to poverty, while in the UK it's anti Muslim and also directed towards eastern European migrants.
Islam is a religion. not a race.
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