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View Poll Results: More racially integrated?
U.S 33 55.00%
U.K 27 45.00%
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:35 PM
 
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The Canadian census does collect information about visible minorities. At the last count it was 23% with south Asians and Chinese making up 10% alone,. The 23% does not include the native american/ Inuit population, which are not classified as a visible minority.

Most community surveys of the US list it over 70% white, if you include white Hispanics, as white. The lower % often quoted assumes people like Charlie Sheen and Cameron Diaz are not white. The native Amercian/Alaskan population of the USA, are not considered to be white
Not to get into an argument about what classifies as "white" but Charlie Sheen and Cameron Diaz are quite obvious and undeniably white. Anyone who says otherwise is being ignorant.
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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It seems that some of the American posters only seem to see racial integration in terms of black and white integration rather than the whole spectrum of races and cultures. To me, the UK feels more integrated but I have only beeen in each country for weeks, not years, so really not my call.
Because most racial problems in the US involve Blacks and Whites. Most, not all. Now, when I spoke earlier about the cities that were diverse but segregated or integrated, I was actually thinking of the entire racial spectrum. Los Angeles is very diverse but it has specific areas that are predominantly Black, White, Latino, Asian, etc. Oakland has some of this segregation but far less of it. To the point that some years ago they renamed one of their streets from East 14th st. to International blvd. to reflect the diversity along that corridor.
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The Canadian census does collect information about visible minorities. At the last count it was 23% with south Asians and Chinese making up 10% alone,. The 23% does not include the native american/ Inuit population, which are not classified as a visible minority.

Most community surveys of the US list it over 70% white, if you include white Hispanics, as white. The lower % often quoted assumes people like Charlie Sheen and Cameron Diaz are not white. The native Amercian/Alaskan population of the USA, are not considered to be white
This isn't quite correct. They can check both as they represent two different categories. Charlie Sheen can check white for race and Hispanic for ethnicity. Hispanics are not the only group like this. Cajuns are recognized by the US as an ethnic group. They are considered white by race but ethnically as Cajun. I think the Gullah people of the Carolinas are similar, being Black racially but Gullah ethnically. That's if they've been recognized as such which I'm not sure about. Point is, they can count as both.
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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This isn't quite correct. They can check both as they represent two different categories. Charlie Sheen can check white for race and Hispanic for ethnicity. Hispanics are not the only group like this. Cajuns are recognized by the US as an ethnic group. They are considered white by race but ethnically as Cajun. I think the Gullah people of the Carolinas are similar, being Black racially but Gullah ethnically. That's if they've been recognized as such which I'm not sure about. Point is, they can count as both.
Its the same everywhere really, the whole concept of racial clasification is very ambiguous. In Australia we dont even bother with the race part. A guy like ben Simmons would be just "american".
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The Canadian census does collect information about visible minorities. At the last count it was 23% with south Asians and Chinese making up 10% alone,. The 23% does not include the native american/ Inuit population, which are not classified as a visible minority.

Most community surveys of the US list it over 70% white, if you include white Hispanics, as white. The lower % often quoted assumes people like Charlie Sheen and Cameron Diaz are not white. The native Amercian/Alaskan population of the USA, are not considered to be white
The white share as in percentage in the US and Canada is actually about the same these days.

The makeup of the other 30 percent is quite dissimilar though.

Actually the make up of the white 70 percent is different too.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:26 PM
 
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It seems that some of the American posters only seem to see racial integration in terms of black and white integration rather than the whole spectrum of races and cultures. To me, the UK feels more integrated but I have only beeen in each country for weeks, not years, so really not my call.
Perhaps because there hasn't been large-scale European immigration to the US in a long time, a lot of folk no longer realize how different people from Finland and Greece, or Poland and Spain, as examples, can be.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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The white share as in percentage in the US and Canada is actually about the same these days.

The makeup of the other 30 percent is quite dissimilar though.

Actually the make up of the white 70 percent is different too.
That my general perception.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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That my general perception.
20-30 years ago would have been a different story.
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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U.K is integrated at a city level and it’s ot even close. Metro London is 10-13% black. This is about the same as many meteors in the U.S (Houston a very black city is 17% metro wise), For comparable cities in the U.S with similar demographics not even close to as integrated as London. Other UK cities while closer to 70%-95% metro-wise white they are still all significantly more diverse.
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:44 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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It seems that some of the American posters only seem to see racial integration in terms of black and white integration rather than the whole spectrum of races and cultures.
If you had cities in Australia where the population was 50% to 80% black, then you would understand why black and white integration is such a big issue.

No two races in the world are as different as whites of European descent and blacks of African descent.
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