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Old 02-13-2021, 02:11 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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The answer to OP's question is: Yes, the United States of America is the most diverse country in the World.

All the people cherry picking random demographics highlight the inanity of denying this: "But, but how can America be so diverse if Australia has more Bahaii Bosniaks ages 47-53?" The fact that people have to cherry pick tells you all you need to know about the weakness of their argument.

Somebody here keeps arguing that Australia is more diverse because, get this, it is 2% Muslim instead of 1% like the U.S. (or something laughably ridiculous like that). As if that negates everything else:

USA:

African Americans: 46,713,850 (incl. sizable Egyptian, Ethiopian, Nigerian, Somali populations)
Asian Americans: 20,916,028
- Chinese: 5,143,982
- Indians: 3,852,293
- Japanese: 773,714
- Koreans: 2,546,982
- Taiwanese: 900,595
- Vietnamese: 2,162,610
European Americans: 243,832,540 (including those who classify as White and Latino)
- British: 72,065,000
- Dutch: 4,533,617
- French: 10,329,465
- German: 44,164,758
- Greek: 1,273,628
- Irish: 31,517,030
- Italian: 17,063,646
- Polish: 9,152,819
- Portuguese: 1,373,147
- Russian: 2,611,496
- Scandinavian: 10,931,991
- Spanish: 10,017,244
- Ukrainian: 976,314
Latino Americans: 60,481,746
- Colombian: 1,237,606
- Cuban: 2,381,565
- Dominican: 2,082,857
- Ecuadorian: 717,995
- Guatemalan: 1,524,743
- Honduran: 963,930
- Mexican: 37,186,361
- Peruvian: 684,345
- Salvadoran: 2,306,774
- Venezuelan: 484,445

The U.S. has as many Latinos now than Australia and Canada (combined) have people.

African Population:
Australia: 380,000
Canada: 1,198,540
USA: 46,713,850

Latino Population:
Australia: 179,951
Canada: 447,325
USA: 60,481,746

How diverse could Australia and Canada possibly be with such low numbers as those above? Australia has fewer Blacks than just the city of Baltimore. Canada has fewer Blacks than Prince George's County + Memphis.

In terms of Latinos, Australia has less Latinos than the non-descript city of Laredo, Texas. Canada's Latino population is HALF of just Hidalgo County, Texas. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the U.S. outclasses and outshines on diversity.
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Old 02-14-2021, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Australia
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The above post is listing total numbers of people. Australia has a population of 25 million, less than both California and Texas.

Most of us have a diverse background. But I am not sure why this is regarded as so important. I suspect the OP is once again, our many times rebranded poster who has a need to claim the US is superior in every aspect of everything.
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Old 02-14-2021, 04:59 PM
 
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Interesting how when speaking about Malaysian, Indian or Indonesia, the reference is so much on language but all can be of the same ethnicity or country of origin. But for the U.S., white, black and latins are just that with no recognition of country of origin. Break it down by country/ancestry is its no contest that U.S. is most diverse.
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Old 02-14-2021, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Interesting how when speaking about Malaysian, Indian or Indonesia, the reference is so much on language but all can be of the same ethnicity or country of origin. But for the U.S., white, black and latins are just that with no recognition of country of origin. Break it down by country/ancestry is its no contest that U.S. is most diverse.
Malaysia is comprised of majority Malays, with a very sizeable Chinese minority, a large Indian minority, a lot of people from diverse backgrounds in Malaysian Borneo and quite a lot of Europeans. So it is very diverse. I think that is why I find the food there, along with Singapore, to be the best in the world.
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Old 02-14-2021, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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The above post is listing total numbers of people. Australia has a population of 25 million, less than both California and Texas.

Most of us have a diverse background. But I am not sure why this is regarded as so important. I suspect the OP is once again, our many times rebranded poster who has a need to claim the US is superior in every aspect of everything.
Do the math and calculate percentages then. The U.S. still wins out. The U.S. is 59% White. Australia isn't even close.

And the U.S. White population is far more diverse than the Anglo White population in Australia.
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Old 02-14-2021, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Do the math and calculate percentages then. The U.S. still wins out. The U.S. is 59% White. Australia isn't even close.

And the U.S. White population is far more diverse than the Anglo White population in Australia.
I think the argument is that Diversity can come in many forms of which race is just one. and most cannot be calculated by Math alone.

Though I do not know how many times it needs to be said, Hispanic is not considered a race by virtually anyone, including the US Bureau of Statistics (Note the White alone % in the link Below). New Zealand is about 70% white using this same definition , Canada is about 75%, and Australia is somewhere between 75-77%, using Aboriginal/Ancestry data (Australia does not collect race data on is population outside Aboriginal).

Though yes the white US population is very diverse and far more so than Australia, but then again Malaysia is also very diverse, even if it is mostly Asian.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...e/US/IPE120219

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Old 02-15-2021, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Various
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African Population:
Australia: 380,000
Canada: 1,198,540
USA: 46,713,850

Latino Population:
Australia: 179,951
Canada: 447,325
USA: 60,481,746

How diverse could Australia and Canada possibly be with such low numbers as those above? Australia has fewer Blacks than just the city of Baltimore. Canada has fewer Blacks than Prince George's County + Memphis.

In terms of Latinos, Australia has less Latinos than the non-descript city of Laredo, Texas. Canada's Latino population is HALF of just Hidalgo County, Texas. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the U.S. outclasses and outshines on diversity.
Well at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, there are many more ethnicities and cultures than African and "Latino".

These threads continue to highlight the fact that many people do not understand relative and absolute numbers.
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Old 02-15-2021, 08:22 AM
 
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I find it kind of funny that people who have never been anywhere near Germany, and do not speak a word of German can claim they are of German ancestry that is all.
This is quite a stupid sentence. If you have German ancestors, then you are of German ethnic heritage and ethnicity, no matter what language you speak or whether you've been to Germany before.
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Old 02-15-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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I believe that the United States is one of the most racially diverse countries in the world. Even though there are some advantages to this, there are also big social problems.

The United States had to fight a bloody civil war related to this diversity of its population. And there are ongoing political and social divisions in this country because of it. Different groups have become Balkanized. Human beings probably weren't meant to live with others that are very unlike themselves.

This is why I say you need to be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.
But have different groups become balkanized? That's something that I just don't see, even in the "white/black" racial dynamic.
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Old 02-15-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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Not really. I have Italian ancestry, my wife has English ancestry. Both of us are native Spanish speakers with a strong Rioplatense accent who also speak English but as a secondary language. I don’t even speak Italian. Both of us have the broadly similar customs expected for the urban middle class of Central Eastern Argentina.

There’s nothing culturally unique about us which is directly derived from our specific origins. There is no clue about us belonging to different ‘ethnicities’. We actually don’t. There’s nothing screaming diversity out of us. We are just different people with different lives, different family backgrounds, different parents, and different childhoods.

[font=&quot]You’d only see us as Argentinians.
I'm recognizing ethnic diversity in a given country. All I'm looking at are proportions and solid numbers of ethnic diasporas in given countries. I don't care about how that manifests culturally, and how exactly people in a given country choose to express that identity or not. This is unique to each immigrant society, and most societies actually do have histories of integration and assimilation per diaspora group.

But considering cultural manifestation of various ethnicities is not a requirement of merely examining the ethnic makeup and diversity of a nation. You're shifting the discussion.
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