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View Poll Results: What city is the "Education Capital of the World"
Boston 17 54.84%
London 10 32.26%
Other 4 12.90%
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Old 02-02-2021, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Hey, where's the UAL? University of Arts London where I went? It encompasses Central St. Martins, Chelsea College of Arts, Wimbledon College of Arts, LCC (London Colllege of Communication), LCF (London College of Fashion) and Camberwell College of Arts?

Also I see the London Metropolitan University is missing too.
That's the University of London and not Universities in London, which are in the wiki link in my last post.
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Old 02-02-2021, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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They're normal trains for London but the distance between London and Cambridge-crossed in such a short span of time would be considered High-Speed Rail in the United States. It would take double the time to make those journeys on US infrastructure.

London as an 'area' isnt actually isnt even 2x the size of Boston. Boston Combined Statistical Area includes Harvard, MIT, and Brown (Providence). Not to mention dozens of other institutions. Many of which are top tier institutions Brandies, Bentley, Boston College, Boston University, Emerson, Suffolk Univeristy, Northeastern university, and a plurality of the US private boarding schools.

The number of universities just inside the first ring of the Boston Metro is just massive... the 'Boston area extends far beyond this..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...politan_Boston

This site has ranked 98 in the area https://www.collegesimply.com/colleg...price=&start=1

There are about 35-50 in boston

Harvard and MIT are routinely ranked as #1 and #2 in the world.

The endowments at Harvard and MIT surpass 50 Billion dollars. Massachusetts is the #1 Education state in the US, and Boston is the best major urban public school system in the US.

Boston the city itself (population 694k) has 35 colleges in its borders according to the city http://www.bostonplans.org/getattach...f-84baca828bf3
The usual definition of High Speed Trains is at least 160 mph.

As for Boston it's around 232.1 km² in size, with a population of 684,379.

New York city is 783.8 km² with a population of 8.4 million.

London is 1,572 km² in size, with a population of 9 million.

In terms of Universities there are around 40 in London, as well as hundreds specialised colleges and high education institutions.

There are also campuses of some Universities outside of London, as well as some International Universities including American Universities.

Foreign Universities with Campuses in London include;

*Booth School of Business

*Fordham University

*New York University

*Hult International Business School

*University of Notre Dame

*Richmond, The American International University in London which does have its own taught degree-awarding powers and is accredited by the Middle States Commission in the USA.

*Schiller International University

*Jagiellonian University

*Grenoble Graduate School of Business, GGSB

*Syracuse University

*Limkokwing University of Creative Technology

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Old 02-02-2021, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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The usual definition of High Speed Trains is at least 160 mph.

As for Boston it's around 232.1 km² in size, with a population of 684,379.

New York city is 783.8 km² with a population of 8.4 million.

London is 1,572 km² in size, with a population of 9 million.
America's fastest-ever train will debut in 2022. It will reach a max speed of 125mph. https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...to%20125%20mph.

In my American context, your trains out to Oxford are definitely high speed.

Boston city proper yes. small. Boston's Metro area is 4.5 Million. Its larger Combines Statistical area is 8.4 million.

Boston city proper still has 35 colleges in that area.
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Old 02-02-2021, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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America's fastest-ever train will debut in 2022. It will reach a max speed of 125mph. https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...to%20125%20mph.

In my American context, your trains out to Oxford are definitely high speed.

Boston city proper yes. small. Boston's Metro area is 4.5 Million. Its larger Combines Statistical area is 8.4 million.

Boston city proper still has 35 colleges in that area.


I like Boston, and the Universities in Boston often have close ties to UK Universities.

In terms of London it has four universities in the worlds top forty - Imperial, UCL, LSE and Kings, which is more than any other city.

In 2020 SOAS moved into the top 50 ranking in the world for Arts and Humanities.

Whilst London is home to the vast British Library and other such learning resources, and is also a renowned arts and cultural hub.

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According to The Times Higher Education World University Rankings, the city of London is the higher education capital of the world. It sports four universities in the global top 40, which is more than any other city in the world.

London crowned ‘education capital of the world’ - International Student

London named education capital of the world - FSL

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Old 02-02-2021, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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One of my thoughts is much more Boston is impacted and reliant upon educational institutions for a nearly endlessly wide range of things. It’s more central to Boston’s population figures, existence, reputation and economy London. There’s a greater chance that us you’re in Boston-you’re there for school than in London. And the top schools are better.

The word association with education is higher for Boston which is likely why it’s winning the poll.
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Old 02-02-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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London.

Sure, neither Oxford nor Cambridge are in London, but Harvard and MIT aren't in Boston
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Old 02-02-2021, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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London.

Sure, neither Oxford nor Cambridge are in London, but Harvard and MIT aren't in Boston
60 miles ...is very different than half a mile.
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Old 02-02-2021, 06:07 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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America's fastest-ever train will debut in 2022. It will reach a max speed of 125mph. https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...to%20125%20mph.

In my American context, your trains out to Oxford are definitely high speed.

Boston city proper yes. small. Boston's Metro area is 4.5 Million. Its larger Combines Statistical area is 8.4 million.

Boston city proper still has 35 colleges in that area.

Acela operates at speeds up to 150 mph in certain parts and the new rolling stock set to be in operation this year will have max operating speeds of up to 160 mph.


Unfortunately, this helps Boston very little because there are no electrified high speed rail tracks going north from Boston (Boston's South Station is one of the terminals for Northeast high speed rail) and southbound trains unfortunately very quickly hit some of the slowest parts of the northeast high speed rail service as it goes into the very jagged and crowded tracks hugging Connecticut's jagged coastline. Supposedly, the smart move would be a new inland route through CT or even MA rather than hugging the CT coastline. I like the idea, especially the routing of Boston-Providence-Hartford-Waterbury-Danbury-White Plains-NYC which would interconnect with a huge number of services in between, but that kind of longitudinal planning among multiple entities just seems to have a real tough time in the US.




As for the topic, there's no city or metropolitan area that has anywhere close to a strong enough lock on the largest and/or most prestigious higher education institutions in the world. London and Boston are pretty decent bets.



If you expand things pretty far out, then Oxford and Cambridge (UK) is just a tad further away from London than Providence is from Boston, but Oxford and Cambridge together add a lot more than Brown and RISD do, so London would be up ahead, though if you were to do that kind of expansiveness, then NYC would probably be up ahead as then you can start making the case that Princeton and then Yale are part of NYC's selections.


Anyhow, strong education institutions are really spread out around the globe at this point even though most global ranking systems arguably weight heavily towards English-language institutions. Among the most commonly cited global university rankings, several places have multiple notable entries aside from Boston, London, and New York City such as Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Paris, Lausanne-Geneva, the Randstadt, Munich, Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai, Singapore. Hong Kong, Tokyo, and Sydney

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Old 02-02-2021, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Central New Jersey (prev. Boston, NY, Florida)
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Acela operates at speeds up to 150 mph in certain parts and the new rolling stock set to be in operation this year will have max operating speeds of up to 160 mph.


Unfortunately, this helps Boston very little because there are no electrified high speed rail tracks going north from Boston (Boston's South Station is one of the terminals for Northeast high speed rail) and southbound trains unfortunately very quickly hit some of the slowest parts of the northeast high speed rail service as it goes into the very jagged and crowded tracks hugging Connecticut's jagged coastline. Supposedly, the smart move would be a new inland route through CT or even MA rather than hugging the CT coastline. I like the idea, especially the routing of Boston-Providence-Hartford-Waterbury-Danbury-White Plains-NYC which would interconnect with a huge number of services in between, but that kind of longitudinal planning among multiple entities just seems to have a real tough time in the US.




As for the topic, there's no city or metropolitan area that has anywhere close to a strong enough lock on the largest and/or most prestigious higher education institutions in the world. London and Boston are pretty decent bets.



If you expand things pretty far out, then Oxford and Cambridge (UK) is just a tad further away from London than Providence is from Boston, but Oxford and Cambridge together add a lot more than Brown and RISD do, so London would be up ahead, though if you were to do that kind of expansiveness, then NYC would probably be up ahead as then you can start making the case that Princeton and then Yale are part of NYC's selections.


Anyhow, strong education institutions are really spread out around the globe at this point even though most global ranking systems arguably weight heavily towards English-language institutions. Among the most commonly cited global university rankings, several places have multiple notable entries aside from Boston, London, and New York City such as Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Paris, Lausanne-Geneva, the Randstadt, Munich, Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai, Singapore. Hong Kong, Tokyo, and Sydney
I work next to Princeton. Thats a Philly school. Even though its between the two.
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Old 02-02-2021, 06:51 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I work next to Princeton. Thats a Philly school. Even though its between the two.

I understand that--though I wouldn't even say it's really a Philly school rather than neither NYC or Philly. It's in the NYC CSA though and my point was if we were allowing for that kind of raw distance from the center where Oxford and Cambridge are part of London's groups of schools, then it starts including a lot of institutions for elsewhere as well.
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