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View Poll Results: What city is the "Education Capital of the World"
Boston 17 54.84%
London 10 32.26%
Other 4 12.90%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-03-2021, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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London.

Sure, neither Oxford nor Cambridge are in London, but Harvard and MIT aren't in Boston


London is a massive education hub by it's self, just like NYC and Paris are.

London has five large medical schools - Imperial, UCL, King's, Queen Mark and St George's, and is a big biosciences, pharma and tech hub with lots of investment, and they are among the most highly respected institutions in the world, and have some of the best facilities.

London has mentioned is also home to some of the most highly rated universities in the world and has a long history of education and scientific research.

In recent years vast new investment has seen the Francis Crick Institute open and projects such as Imperials expansion at White City and UCL at Stratford, as well as the London Cancer Hub at Sutton.

Recent changes include the development of the Royal National ENT and Eastman Dental Hospitals is the largest such facility in Europe, whilst UCL Moorfields Eye Hospital is moving to superb new facilities in Kings Cross. Moorfields os the oldest and largest centre for ophthalmic treatment, teaching and research in Europe.

Then you have other famous hospitals such as the Royal Marsden, which was the first hospital in the world dedicated to the study and treatment of cancer.

Great Ormond Street Hospital which is one of the world's leading children's hospitals, housing the widest range of specialists under one roof.

Then you have Harefield Hosital in Hillingdin, the largest specialist heart and lung centre in the UK and among the largest in Europe. Harefield's sister hospital is the Royal Brompton Hospital in Chelsea.

The National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery (informally the National Hospital or Queen Square) is a neurological hospital in Queen Square, London. It is part of the University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. It is closely associated with University College London (UCL).

King's the largest centre for healthcare training in Europe, and has one of the largest renal and transplant units in Europe.

Barts Heart Centre is Europe's largest, integrating staff and services from three sites in one, and in terms of large critical care hospitals, London has some of the largest and most impressive in Europe.

St Mark's Hospital in Harrow is the only hospital in the world to specialise entirely in intestinal and colorectal medicine and is a national and international referral centre for intestinal and colorectal disorders.It is the only hospital in the UK, and one of only 14 worldwide, to be recognised as a centre of excellence by the World Organisation of Digestive Endoscopy.

The Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital (RNOH) is a specialist orthopaedic hospital located in Greater London, United Kingdom, and a part of Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital NHS Trust. It provides the most comprehensive range of neuro-musculoskeletal health care in the UK, including acute spinal injury, complex bone tumour treatment, orthopaedic medicine and specialist rehabilitation for chronic back pain. The RNOH is a major teaching centre and around 20% of orthopaedic surgeons in the UK receive training there.

The Hospital for Tropical Diseases (HTD) in London specialoses in tropical and infectious diseases, and ids one of the oldest and most highly respected in the world and it works closely with The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, a world leading centre for research and postgraduate education in public and global health.

London is also home to world famous psychiatric units, including the Maudsley Hospital and Royal Betlhlem (Bedlam) whilst the West London NHS Trust is responsible for the Broadmoor High Security Psychiatric Hospital.

This is however just scratching the surface in terms of London's medical history and hospitals, as well as the massive London life sciences sector, and investment.

Here are some of London's Historic Health and Medicine Museums - The London Museums of Health and Medicine

The RCS building is currently undergoing a major redevelopment. The Hunterian Museum will open again to the public in early 2023.

Hunterian Museum - Royal College of Surgeons

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Old 02-03-2021, 06:00 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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WOW I've never heard the railway in the UK described as 'high speed' before! I thought trains in the UK were notorious for being slow :-D
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Old 02-03-2021, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Central New Jersey (prev. Boston, NY, Florida)
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I understand that--though I wouldn't even say it's really a Philly school rather than neither NYC or Philly. It's in the NYC CSA though and my point was if we were allowing for that kind of raw distance from the center where Oxford and Cambridge are part of London's groups of schools, then it starts including a lot of institutions for elsewhere as well.

Yeah at that point you have the whole college belt in springfield area too
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Old 02-03-2021, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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WOW I've never heard the railway in the UK described as 'high speed' before! I thought trains in the UK were notorious for being slow :-D


We do have HS1 to the Channel Tunnel and are currently building HS2 from London to Birmingham (and then Manchester), but otherwise our rains tend to have a maximum speed of 125 mph.

There id also a proposed high-speed services between cities in the North of England although this is in it;s early stages of development, with the first stage being a high speed line between Leeds and Manchester.

High-speed rail in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
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Old 02-03-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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Reading the title and not looking at the poll, the first three I thought of are Boston, London, Paris.

Of course Oxford and Cambridge are part of London for the purposes of this discussion, no need to bring in statisticians and lawyers to indulge in a sterile pissing contest.

I would also add the British Museum and especially the British Library Museum as part of London's advanced education assets and the Louvre as part of that of Paris.

I don't think Boston has anything like those three museums, perhaps Washington D.C. does.
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Old 02-03-2021, 07:31 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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We do have HS1 to the Channel Tunnel and are currently building HS2 from London to Birmingham (and then Manchester), but otherwise our rains tend to have a maximum speed of 125 mph.

There id also a proposed high-speed services between cities in the North of England although this is in it;s early stages of development, with the first stage being a high speed line between Leeds and Manchester.

High-speed rail in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
It is about time we brought British railways into the 21st century, I see there is some talk of re-opening some of the old branch lines that Breeching closed in the sixties.
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Old 02-03-2021, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Reading the title and not looking at the poll, the first three I thought of are Boston, London, Paris.

Of course Oxford and Cambridge are part of London for the purposes of this discussion, no need to bring in statisticians and lawyers to indulge in a sterile pissing contest.

I would also add the British Museum and especially the British Library Museum as part of London's advanced education assets and the Louvre as part of that of Paris.

I don't think Boston has anything like those three museums, perhaps Washington D.C. does.

FWIW
When I made the thread I really didn’t mean for Oxford and Cambridge to be included in London. Because there many many miles away from London. They’re simply not London.

I don’t know what “like those three museums” would be...no doubt Boston has some very fine museums. I’ve heard of the Louvre, but not the British museum. Tbh I’ve never heard of any London Schools period until I started digging into the past two days.
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Old 02-03-2021, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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It is about time we brought British railways into the 21st century, I see there is some talk of re-opening some of the old branch lines that Breeching closed in the sixties.


There are currently plans to reopen the Old Varsity line aka the East West Oxford - Cambridge line and a rail line in Northumberland between Newcastle and Ashington.

They have re-opened part the Waverley Route between Edinburgh and Carlisle, and there are plans to reopen the rest of the route.

East West Rail: Connecting Communities between Oxford and Cambridge

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Old 02-03-2021, 07:57 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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FWIW
When I made the thread I really didn’t mean for Oxford and Cambridge to be included in London. Because there many many miles away from London. They’re simply not London.

I don’t know what “like those three museums” would be...no doubt Boston has some very fine museums. I’ve heard of the Louvre, but not the British museum. Tbh I’ve never heard of any London Schools period until I started digging into the past two days.
BostonBornMassMade

Pre-loaded, half-cocked and biased poll, much?

If my objective were a career in basically anything within the US, then to be sure a Boston-area university, including Harvard which is simply not Boston, would be my first choice.

If my objective were a career in international finance, including insurance, or even ancient history, then to be sure a London-area university and its museums, including Oxford and Cambridge which are simply and quintessentially London for the purposes of this discussion, would be my first choice.

By the way, I have a degree from a Boston-area university and another one from a London-area university (both actually in the city proper, respectively).

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Old 02-03-2021, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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FWIW
When I made the thread I really didn’t mean for Oxford and Cambridge to be included in London. Because there many many miles away from London. They’re simply not London.

I don’t know what “like those three museums” would be...no doubt Boston has some very fine museums. I’ve heard of the Louvre, but not the British museum. Tbh I’ve never heard of any London Schools period until I started digging into the past two days.
A few facts about London and the region that surrounds it;

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Originally Posted by London & Partners

Golden Triangle

*London sits at the heart of the Cambridge - London - Oxford Golden Triangle within the greater south east of England, providing an outstanding entry point to the UK market, supported by MedCity, which provides a front door to the region’s life sciences capability.

*Home to the strongest biosciences cluster in Europe of over 3,700 companies with industry spanning everything from advanced therapies to digital technologies and AI.

*Direct access to London’s world-leading financial centre.

A gateway to academic excellence and talent

*A base for world-renowned academic excellence providing sought-after depth and breadth of knowledge. Five medical schools, three dental schools and institutions including the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the Institute of Cancer Research.

*Five universities in the top 25 for life sciences and medicine globally, including Cambridge, Oxford, UCL, Imperial and King’s College London.

*185,000 life sciences students and 55,000 graduates across the greater south east of England.

A power house for research and development

140 specialist services and 39 acute trusts including Great Ormond Street, Guys and St Thomas and the Royal Marsden.

*A developing landscape for innovation support and infrastructure, including the Francis Crick Institute, the King’s Cross Knowledge Quarter, Imperial White City campus, the planned London Cancer Hub, the £250m Dementia Research Institute headquartered at UCL and London Advanced Therapies.

Strengths and specialisms

Advanced therapies
Digital health
Health data research
Oncology
Genomics
Rare diseases
Immunology
Mental health
Neuroscience

Innovation in life sciences - London & Partners

The London Cancer Hub

Crick Institute

Research and discovery - White City Campus -Imperial

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